1942-S DDO-001 (with RPM)

[mustbebob]

I originally had this variety listed as the 1949S-1DO-001 on coppercoins. However, when I was comparing the 3 of them I had, to see which one was a better specimen, I discovered the RPM, and made that one coppercoins die-002. This, after they had been in my collection for 15 years! Even I miss things folks.

[eaxtellcoin]

Ther are actually quite a few in pennies and nickels both, Just have to look......
The nice thing is they usually command a higher premium for the combo...

[Rubenthelincolnguy]

Why I feel it looks like MDD and not double die??? I know there is a big difference between them, and I honestly love both types of doubling, but I constantly find MDD's and list them, and hate it when buyers start giving me comments like: "that is a machine double die, is not worth nothing" peronally I think MDD's are cool (bold ones) Nice coin! I just bought a micro to be able to inspect mint ,arks as close as possible, great job on the pictures too!!!

[simonm]

One key feature to note about this being a doubled die and not machine doubling is that the doubled area does not remove the size of the design elements. For this doubled die, if you take away the doubled area, the date is a normal size. In the case of machine doubling on the date of a coin, however, removing the doubled area results in a smaller date size, an indication that it was not truly doubled.

[jcuve]

I would suggest focusing on RTY, in particular the Y. MD is typically flatter and will cut into the device making it smaller; all of the doubled areas on DDO-001 are normal sized with the doubling making it larger.

[Rubenthelincolnguy]

ooooooooooooooooh cpuld you guys take a look on my thread for the 1953 DDO or MDD??? I posted??? I could swear the motto GOD and some other letters show pretty much dobling like this, but other members here already told me is a MDD nnnot a DDO... I am confused, or mayve just tired

[willbrooks]

Why I feel it looks like MDD and not double die??? I know there is a big difference between them, and I honestly love both types of doubling, but I constantly find MDD's and list them, and hate it when buyers start giving me comments like: "that is a machine double die, is not worth nothing" peronally I think MDD's are cool (bold ones) Nice coin! I just bought a micro to be able to inspect mint ,arks as close as possible, great job on the pictures too!!!

Ruben,
I will try to help you a little bit with your terminology. You seem to be combining terms for completely different things and it makes it impossible to know what you are asking or referring to at times. You seem to understand that there is a difference between a "doubled die" (note the term is 'doubled,' not 'double') and machine doubling. Machine doubling is NOT a "machine doubled die," rather merely an effect that happens during the strike. Machine doubling is generally denoted MD, not MDD. This can be confusing as people often use MDD to mean Master Die Doubling, which is another type of worthless doubling, but completely different than machine doubling. There are many good explanations on the various forms of doubling, and how to tell the difference, if you do an online search or buy a reference book. Best wishes.

[jcuve]

Please no more questions in this thread unless it deals directly with the DDO shown.

[pennies4pennies]

This might be stupid Jason but on you first pictures of the MM. I see lines on top of the S that don't go with the south second S.( look at the center of the main S) Looks to me like another part of a MM, going more north. Could there be more to the MM that is not being seen.? Or am I just looking to hard.

[jcuve]

...just looking to hard.

I think that would be it. The first example is MDS and the newer example at the bottom is EDS and clearer.