"Final" Numismatic Photography Setup

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  • ray_parkhurst
    Paid Member

    • Dec 2011
    • 1855

    #1

    "Final" Numismatic Photography Setup

    I'm finally happy with my numismatic photography setup, at least "happy enough" to stop modifying it for a while. My latest work developing "Smile Directors" (light source shapers) for the Jansjo LEDs has paid off and they are giving me a method to equalize the differences between raw and slabbed coins; maximize angle from horizontal to bring out color; provide diffusion to minimize hotspots; yet still provide a small enough illumination spot to set-off a luster response.

    A major factor in making this setup "final" is the ability to "calibrate" the lighting using a now permanently-installed stage mirror. Before, it was all guesswork as to how the lights were shining on the coin. With the mirror, I can accurately position them at the same incident angle for every photo, so if I bump the lights, shift over to high magnification imaging, set up to test a new lens, etc I can quickly get right back where I was.

    Here is my calibration photo of the lighting setup. Note that I stopped-down to f22 for this to show a better definition of the size and shape of the illumination slots in the Directors.



    As you can see, I'm not shifting very far from the traditional 10-2 arrangement that seems to work so well. Only real difference is that the size and shape of the sources are tightly-controlled with the Directors and positioning is made repeatable with the calibration method. By the way, try doing this with halogens and you'll start a fire!

    And of course, first photo I took is of my old favorite 57D toner.



    This coin has been through a lot since I first photographed it. It's been my primary coin for comparing lighting techniques, lenses, vibration reduction methods, tilting, etc. Every setup I've built has been verified with this coin. But 99% of the photos taken of this coin have been the obverse. Well...tada! Here is the reverse in all its glory:



    For those of you not familiar with my setups, I have them documented pretty well on CC forum in this thread:



    Here's an older photo of the setup I'm using now, but before I added the mirror:



    Here's a recent photo showing the reversible stage plate on top of the calibration mirror:



    Finally, here's a photo of a "Smile Director" over the face of a Jansjo LED light:



    Now for my sinister plan...I am going to take photos of the rest of the toned Lincolns from this same roll and publish them in this thread. I will do this over a bit of time, taking down the setup between photos in order to ensure the calibration method works well and gives repeatable illumination.

    By the way, I settled on a height of 100mm from coin surface to the faces of the Directors. This gives what I think is best shadow detail on the coin.

    And of course there are other setup details...

    Camera: Nikon D7000
    Shooting modes: RAW; Aperture Priority
    ISO: 100
    Shutter Speed: 1/13sec (+/-)
    Copy Stand: Modified Chinese StereoZoom Microscope stand (would not recommend...B&L A-Stand are better)
    Bellows: Nikon PB4 (no tilt or shift used) with BR15 M39 adapter (overkill but nice precision instrument)
    Lens: 75ARD1 (Rodenstock 75mm f4 Apo Rodagon D M1:1)
    Aperture: f5.6
    PostProcessing: Nikon ViewNX2; Sharpening "1" after downsizing for web publishing
    Builder of Custom Coin Photography Setups. PM me with your needs or visit http://macrocoins.com
  • 1sgret

    #2
    Nice photos and I believe you have the right combination.

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    • Maineman750
      Administrator

      • Apr 2011
      • 12069

      #3
      Very nice photos and explanation..hope I can find this thread when I'm ready to improve my pictures.Right now my Camaro is acting like a wife..it wants all my money.
      https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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      • seal006
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 2330

        #4
        I am completely speechless, and oh so jealous. I need you to take photos for my website. I would have no trouble selling coins ever again.
        "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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        • Roller
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 6975

          #5
          Terrific! in my book. I just got a Chinese made bellows for my D70 Nikon with a manual micro 50mm. I have not worked it out yet. I jerry rigged a mount for it but never thought to use my stagnant B&L for a stand. Thanks for the thought.

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          • lara4228
            Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2116

            #6
            Your set up reminds me of a dentist chair for coins!

            However, the end result is AMAZING!

            Lara
            What ever you do...do it with passion

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            • ray_parkhurst
              Paid Member

              • Dec 2011
              • 1855

              #7
              Here is coin #2...Ray



              Builder of Custom Coin Photography Setups. PM me with your needs or visit http://macrocoins.com

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              • jallengomez
                Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4447

                #8
                Nice setup Ray, and nice coins. What kind of closeups can you get with that? Thanks for sharing.

                Jody
                “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                • Roller
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 6975

                  #9
                  By the way. You're shooting "raw". How much time does it take to produce one of these pictures?

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                  • creme_brule

                    #10
                    Very nice setup. If I had money to buy a nice camera, I would do the same thing as you

                    By the way, love the toners you got there.

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                    • hasfam
                      Paid Member

                      • May 2009
                      • 6291

                      #11
                      Excellent setup and photos. I took your advise from your earlier post and purchased 2 of the Jansjo LED's. I haven't got the filtering or distance quite right yet but there was an immediate improvement from what I had. Thanks
                      Rock
                      My LCR Photo Album of Graded Lincoln Cent Cherry Picker Varieties

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                      • Amadauss
                        Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 832

                        #12
                        The trick is to diffuse the light as you are doing. Nice job.

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                        • foundinrolls

                          #13
                          Absolutely Phenomenal Images! I need say nothing else:-)

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                          • ray_parkhurst
                            Paid Member

                            • Dec 2011
                            • 1855

                            #14
                            Thanks to all for the kind words!

                            Originally posted by jallengomez
                            Nice setup Ray, and nice coins. What kind of closeups can you get with that? Thanks for sharing.

                            Jody
                            With the 75mm lens I can get to about 2:1 magnification, filling the frame with about half a Cent. If I change over to a 35mm lens, I can get up to 5:1 and fill the frame with just the date and mintmark. Great for variety shots.

                            Originally posted by Roller
                            By the way. You're shooting "raw". How much time does it take to produce one of these pictures?
                            I'm using ViewNX2 for capturing and raw processing. I'm not very sophisticated at post processing. It takes me about a minute to set levels and such, and then another minute to convert to jpg for the web. Cropping takes another minute or two, so from time I shoot the coin til I have an 800x800 image for the web it's about 5 minutes or so. Not fast, but the work needs to be done whether RAW or jpg and the RAW processing is only a bit slower than jpg.

                            Now if I was having to focus stack, it's a whole different story, so high mag photos take much, much longer to process. At f5.6 for M=0.8 on these cents, DOF is enough without too much compromise in sharpness that I can get by with a single image.

                            Originally posted by lara4228
                            Your set up reminds me of a dentist chair for coins!

                            However, the end result is AMAZING!

                            Lara
                            Maybe I should have been a dentist instead of an engineer? Uh...maybe not. Thanks Lara!
                            Last edited by ray_parkhurst; 01-20-2012, 09:55 AM.
                            Builder of Custom Coin Photography Setups. PM me with your needs or visit http://macrocoins.com

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                            • Antiquity
                              Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1590

                              #15
                              how much do you want for the setup? Instruction manual required.

                              Nice, very nice.
                              THOMAS J.

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