1998 Weak Strike?

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  • joel
    Paid Member

    • Feb 2014
    • 8018

    #1

    Error Planchet | 1998 Weak Strike?

    It seems like I get a lot of strange Lincolns. This 1998 has a weak impression on the date and the bottom right portion of 8 has a ghost like double to the southeast. However, the rims on the edges are set quite deep. On the reverse the last A in AMERICA has a ghost like appearance at its base. There is also two little smooth pond like impressions between the last A and the C. These are hard to see in the photo,but very evident in person. The 8 and the last A are opposite each other so perhaps the planchet was thinner in that area or it was a Tapered Planchet as I just read in the new glossary additions. Other explanations are welcome.
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    Last edited by joel; 09-04-2014, 05:11 PM.
  • willbrooks
    Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

    • Jan 2012
    • 9473

    #2
    Great coin Joel! The reverse looks to be a struck through (thread or hair). I don't think it is a scratch. The obverse appears to be struck through grease (not a tapered planchet), but more interestingly, that ghost image of the 8 you see reminds me of what Mike Diamond calls "Grease Mold Doubling," or "Stiff-Die-Fill-Raised-Design-Element-Doubling" Check out this article and click on the magnifying glass to look at the pictures. I think these have only been found on 1995 cents, so if this is what it is, it is quite an interesting find. We'll have to wait for Mike to give his analysis.

    Also see this thread here: http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...+mold+doubling
    Last edited by willbrooks; 09-04-2014, 05:48 PM.
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    • Roller
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 6975

      #3
      I can see the struck through grease but the SE extra loop (if that's what we're talking about) is way out of proportion to the normal 8 so I don't see it as a replication.

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      • willbrooks
        Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

        • Jan 2012
        • 9473

        #4
        Originally posted by Roller
        I can see the struck through grease but the SE extra loop (if that's what we're talking about) is way out of proportion to the normal 8 so I don't see it as a replication.
        If you read Mike's article, you will see that the portions of the extra digit will be larger than normal with this phenomenon.
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        • Roller
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 6975

          #5
          I understand that Will and you may be right. But the enlargement on this one is well out of proportion and considerably removed from the intended design. Don't know about these errors at all. Just expressing my observation. What is showing may well be agouge or other die damage.
          Last edited by Roller; 09-04-2014, 08:22 PM.

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          • cranky
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 997

            #6
            That's a great one. Funny Iwas just checking tihis out.

            Yours is a lot nicer. Thanks Joel.
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            • mikediamond
              Paid Member, Error Expert

              • Jan 2008
              • 1104

              #7
              Great find. This is indeed a case of grease mold doubling. It's now known from 1995, 1998, and 1999 cents. I'd like to write this one up for Coin World if that can be arranged.

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              • joel
                Paid Member

                • Feb 2014
                • 8018

                #8
                Mike, That would be great! I'll send you the coin if you would like to see it in person. Tell me where to send it. Thanks, joel

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                • mikediamond
                  Paid Member, Error Expert

                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1104

                  #9
                  Great. I'll send you a PM with my mailing address.

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                  • cranky
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 997

                    #10
                    I'm in possession of 2 pre 82 coppers 1974 and ? . 74 out of a OBW. May still have a couple of ZN ones still.

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                    • jfines69
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28609

                      #11
                      Way to go Joel... Congrats... That is a nice keeper for sure... Glad that Mike D. chimed in!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • mikediamond
                        Paid Member, Error Expert

                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1104

                        #12
                        I can now confirm that this is a case of grease-mold doubling. The degree of offset is even greater than the several 1995 cents I've inspected.

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                        • jfines69
                          Paid Member

                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28609

                          #13
                          Congrats Joel... You are getting a find published... Way to go!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • enamel7
                            Paid Member

                            • Apr 2009
                            • 4041

                            #14
                            I actually have a few of these lying around somewhere. Always just thought it was simple greaser. I love learning stuff on this forum!

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                            • jfines69
                              Paid Member

                              • Jun 2010
                              • 28609

                              #15
                              Originally posted by enamel7
                              I actually have a few of these lying around somewhere. Always just thought it was simple greaser. I love learning stuff on this forum!
                              Need to find those and get them posted!!!
                              Jim
                              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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