1960 D Small Date unlisted "BIE"

[makecents]

Not so fast.

Now the question on this one, the die chip in the 'E'. Is the chip wider than the top bar of the 'E".

I did my best and used the west side of the "E" as my guide to first orientate the letter as I felt that was the only constant. Using the southwest corner as the fulcrum, I squared it the best I could and then used this same point to put a rectangle around it. See what you think.

[mustbebob]

I think the determining factor should be 'Does the crack or chip originate between the letters?' If it does, that should be considered the BIE criteria. I don't think we should make more of this than is there. JC can list anything he sees as appropriate for this classification though, so it is his call.

[jfines69]

Interesting... Could that be displaced metal pushed over into the field due to the circ wear???

[makecents]

Thanks for all the help on this guys but I think I am done with this thread. I have to default to those that know and to the powers that be. Where I am new to this and do not know a lot yet, this is my only choice and will always listen to those more knowledgeable. I kinda felt like I was in the old west there yesterday, having just walked out of the saloon into the street, only to find I was in the middle of two gun slingers with no where to go!

[VAB2013]

Sorry this thread made you feel that way Jon, but I understand. Your thread has helped us with some answers with understanding these in the future, so that is a big plus! I think if the die chip in the E had extended just a little bit more into the space between, then you would have an EIR.

[jfines69]

Thanks for all the help on this guys but I think I am done with this thread. I have to default to those that know and to the powers that be. Where I am new to this and do not know a lot yet, this is my only choice and will always listen to those more knowledgeable. I kinda felt like I was in the old west there yesterday, having just walked out of the saloon into the street, only to find I was in the middle of two gun slingers with no where to go!

As long as you were only winged you will be back

[coulsonmd]

Pickins have been slim lately but found a nice unlisted "BIE" tonight. Nice reverse marker too.

Thanks for looking, Jon.

Jean Cohen in her Lincoln variety encyclopedia shows this exact coin on page 342 and has given it a catalog number of sm60D-CL271. "CL" meaning clogged letters. Very nice coin. I am an avid collector of BIE's and varieties of the 1960D small date. There are hundreds of breaks and chips that make this a long term quest. Thank you for posting this coin

[makecents]

Jean Cohen in her Lincoln variety encyclopedia shows this exact coin on page 342 and has given it a catalog number of sm60D-CL271. "CL" meaning clogged letters. Very nice coin. I am an avid collector of BIE's and varieties of the 1960D small date. There are hundreds of breaks and chips that make this a long term quest. Thank you for posting this coin

Thank you for the information!! There are a few books I need to take time to purchase.

[jfines69]

Thank you for the information!! There are a few books I need to take time to purchase.

Those books are hard to come by... If memory serves me correctly they were last printed in 1969???

[makecents]

Those books are hard to come by... If memory serves me correctly they were last printed in 1969???

I'm sure they are. Speaking of which, here is one I ran across going through some of my Dad's things. Just a few random shots....



Sorry guys, was not thinking....