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    I think I'm gonna blow peoples mind with what I think this is. Ready?? I don't think those are letters at all. Did you notice that the rim is missing in that area? Maybe what we think are letters is actually the sheared remnants of the rim. How's that for a wild guess and No...I don't have any of those magic mushrooms round here
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    Well Bob, this makes very good sense to the very odd anomaly on this wheat! I'm in on the idea... your post reminded me of Grace Slick's White Rabbit song, minus the mushrooms also Thank you Bob!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyEd View Post
    Oh, you know better Viv

    It clearly was not something between the dies, the obv is smashed as if on cement not in a die when some mystery item with the letters (incuse if I see it right) was mashed over the rev which brought up the raised letters.

    A wild guess, whatever it was probably wasn't a coin because most aren't incuse.
    As always with PSD, it's tough to say exactly what or why because the possibilities are limitless.
    LOL Ed, I think it's cute that you can pick on me Yes, you are right, I do know better (sometimes ) but I just could not fathom what type of "something" would have an incuse design like that. I was up doing laundry late last night and I couldn't stop thinking about Cliff's puzzling coin! I'm on board with Bob now! Thank you Bob!

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    Bob, thanks for the suggestion but I respectfully disagree. It is definitely a raised device of some kind and it occurred after the Lincoln die struck it. And the coin is slightly out of round.
    I'm 99% sure it is PSD (like a vise job with maybe a very small NYC token with the Y cut out?) and not overstruck by a die at the Philly mint for foreign currency (but I can't resist looking into that also.)
    The coin edge is thinnest at the "Y" from some type of compression.

    I'll get some images of that rim a little later tonight.
    Thanks again to every one for their input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB2013 View Post
    LOL Ed, I think it's cute that you can pick on me Yes, you are right, I do know better (sometimes ) but I just could not fathom what type of "something" would have an incuse design like that. I was up doing laundry late last night and I couldn't stop thinking about Cliff's puzzling coin! I'm on board with Bob now! Thank you Bob!
    I was afraid someone would miss the LOL on his post and say "really, how much is it worth?".

    Weird stuff does happen I guess the key thing to think of on these is if brockage happens at the mint then the other side should be perfect since it's in a die. I was looking for a link to share, it reminds me of a coin on minterrornews. I think it was an Ike dollar, it had a cent implanted into it at the mint, it turned out like a euro coin with the copper cent stuck in it making a brockage incuse image into the Ike and the Ike pattern over the outer part of the cent. The other side of the Ike was normal.

    I couldn't find a link but you might if you look

    I did find an article showing an Ike that had a quarter planchet struck into it. Notice that the other side is fine because it was in the die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post
    Bob, thanks for the suggestion but I respectfully disagree. It is definitely a raised device of some kind and it occurred after the Lincoln die struck it. And the coin is slightly out of round.
    I'm 99% sure it is PSD (like a vise job with maybe a very small NYC token with the Y cut out?) and not overstruck by a die at the Philly mint for foreign currency (but I can't resist looking into that also.)
    The coin edge is thinnest at the "Y" from some type of compression.

    I'll get some images of that rim a little later tonight.
    Thanks again to every one for their input.


    LOL, I knew someone will miss the LOL, he was joking.

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    Oopps. Oh well. (Thanks Ed.)
    I thought the LOL was only in reference to not having any wild 'shrooms.
    Well here are images of the rim anyway since I took them.
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    And here are some of LIBERTY & IGWT for Viv.
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    Thank you for the follow up pics Cliff! Earlier I looked at some different counterstamps. On your wheat I see part of a Y and part of an L and then something else. But the positioning of the letters makes no sense unless someone was practicing.

    You have some really good pics, please PM Mike Diamond so he can take a look for you!

    Hey Cliff, I was just surfing the web and found a very cool error collection, The Geyer Collection, there are some really cool error coins and a Lincoln cent that was struck over a foreign coin. Here's the link https://coinweek.com/featured-news/g...t-error-coins/
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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB2013 View Post
    Thank you for the follow up pics Cliff! Earlier I looked at some different counterstamps. On your wheat I see part of a Y and part of an L and then something else. But the positioning of the letters makes no sense unless someone was practicing.

    You have some really good pics, please PM Mike Diamond so he can take a look for you!

    Hey Cliff, I was just surfing the web and found a very cool error collection, The Geyer Collection, there are some really cool error coins and a Lincoln cent that was struck over a foreign coin. Here's the link https://coinweek.com/featured-news/g...t-error-coins/
    Cool link... Thanks Vivien!!!
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