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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post
    Makes me wonder if dies could clash with the feeder fingers if the timing was off or the FF didn't get out of the way? That would certainly leave interesting marks on the dies.
    Yeah, there must be a timing factor that keeps that from happening. It would surely make a mess of the dies! Although there could be an error coin somewhere that is struck through FF fragments if the FF is sticky with gunk and lands on the die about the time the planchet falls into place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post
    Makes me wonder if dies could clash with the feeder fingers if the timing was off or the FF didn't get out of the way? That would certainly leave interesting marks on the dies.
    Since the feeder fingers are timed to activate between strikes it should be possible to have a clash and FF damage all in one... The FF damage is to the anvil die so we know that no planchet was in place at the time of occurrence... As heavy as the FF damage is on some of these I wonder why there isn't clashes showing??? Unless the die was polished to remove the clash or the thickness of the FFs is such that a clash could not occur???
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfines69 View Post
    Since the feeder fingers are timed to activate between strikes it should be possible to have a clash and FF damage all in one... The FF damage is to the anvil die so we know that no planchet was in place at the time of occurrence... As heavy as the FF damage is on some of these I wonder why there isn't clashes showing??? Unless the die was polished to remove the clash or the thickness of the FFs is such that a clash could not occur???
    Thanks Jim.
    I was thinking of generally speaking on another coin, if there is the possibility or actual examples of the Feeder Fingers getting caught between the dies or hammer die and planchet? If this did occur I wouldn't think there would be transfer of design elements of the two dies because the FF would prevent the dies from contacting each other.

    I was trying to find the link (I'm even coming up short on the correct term) for Misaligned or MAD die clash(?) where the rim appears to be present but any transfer of devices (letters) are not visible.

    Could these be the result of Feeder Fingers getting caught between the dies?

    Or getting caught between the planchet and die, which would show up only on the obv./hammer die and that one coin as a flat spot with an arc similar in size to a coin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post
    Thanks Jim.
    I was thinking of generally speaking on another coin, if there is the possibility or actual examples of the Feeder Fingers getting caught between the dies or hammer die and planchet? If this did occur I wouldn't think there would be transfer of design elements of the two dies because the FF would prevent the dies from contacting each other.

    I was trying to find the link (I'm even coming up short on the correct term) for Misaligned or MAD die clash(?) where the rim appears to be present but any transfer of devices (letters) are not visible.

    Could these be the result of Feeder Fingers getting caught between the dies?

    Or getting caught between the planchet and die, which would show up only on the obv./hammer die and that one coin as a flat spot with an arc similar in size to a coin?

    If the FFs were stuck between the planchet and die and struck it would be a struck through... A capped die strike will give the rims but little to no devices!!!
    Jim
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