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    I've never thought to associate the die flow lines created on the coin affecting the die itself, this is pretty fascinating to think about!
    In reality, what we see on the coin is from the die, those lines are on the die. You see them on the coin. Think like the coin was struck once, the die struck many coins to make those lines on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB2013 View Post
    It will be interesting to know more about your study related to the 6 on these 1956D's. My first thought was PSD because that is what I see mostly when searching... but you may be onto something here!
    Here is a pic of a 56-D from the same roll, but with a fully-struck 6 that shows the damage I'm talking about. Perhaps folks have seen this before and can comment. I don't know how many 56-D dies show this phenomenon but as I go through the rolls I have I'll take note, and pics as appropriate. Think of this as a teaser for later...



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    Interesting on the 6... I have no idea how many working dies get created from the working hub but if that is from a working hub then there should be a lot of different dies with the broken 6!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfines69 View Post
    Interesting on the 6... I have no idea how many working dies get created from the working hub but if that is from a working hub then there should be a lot of different dies with the broken 6!!!
    And there are a lot of different dies. I've seen this in many rolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfines69 View Post
    In the case of a die and planchet the flow lines are related to spalling very similar to a bullet hitting a piece of metal... It is due to the continuous high velocity and high pressure impact of the die on the planchets... Here is a link with some pics https://www.google.com/search?q=spal...Oy3HodpdyhWsM: Hope that helps a little!!!
    Thank you Jim! This certainly does help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_parkhurst View Post
    Here is a pic of a 56-D from the same roll, but with a fully-struck 6 that shows the damage I'm talking about. Perhaps folks have seen this before and can comment. I don't know how many 56-D dies show this phenomenon but as I go through the rolls I have I'll take note, and pics as appropriate. Think of this as a teaser for later...



    Thank you for the images and especially the 3D image, that is so cool looking and shows the anomaly on the 6 very well! This is really interesting, looking forward to more information on your findings Ray!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post


    And there are a lot of different dies. I've seen this in many rolls.
    There are a lot, I'm so used to seeing it that I've never paid attention to see if it's always the same size.

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    Going back to the OP topic, I have a few extra of the VEDS coins from the same roll. They're in a bit worse condition than the one I posted, but still BU. If folks would like to have one to study, PM me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_parkhurst View Post
    Going back to the OP topic, I have a few extra of the VEDS coins from the same roll. They're in a bit worse condition than the one I posted, but still BU. If folks would like to have one to study, PM me.
    Thank you Ray! This is a cool idea! It would be nice if some of the guys can do this, and I will definitely be looking closer at the 1956D's that I run across!

    Edit: Would this anomaly on the 6 only be on Denver coins? Didn't Philly make the dies for Denver in 1956?
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    I suppose it should also be on 56-P coins as well, but I have not really gone through many 56-P rolls. I'm mostly an RPM guy, so don't buy P-Mint rolls except for the mid-40's.
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