1980P-LC-Small clip with something a little different

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  • 11997755
    Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 180

    #1

    Error Planchet | 1980P-LC-Small clip with something a little different

    I was going to write this off as PSD until I noticed the Blakesley effect on the obverse and reverse. The thing I'm not understanding is what looks like reeding on the side of the rim at the clip. Any ideas ?

    1980P_LC_StraightClip_Obverse.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_ObverseClose.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_ObverseBlakesley.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_ReverseMid.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_ReverseClose.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_BlakesleyReverse.jpg1980P_LC_StraightClip_Edge.jpg
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    Last edited by 11997755; 07-01-2018, 07:53 AM. Reason: Add image of reverse
  • Roller
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 6975

    #2
    I opt for PSD. Some of the images are enticing but the striations on the edge give it away.

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    • makecents
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2017
      • 11037

      #3
      I think it was used as some sort of jewelry at some point with the obverse being the side that showed. Maybe cuff links or something? You cans see damage to the 6th and 7th columns that lines up with the two points at the outer edge of the coin on the full reverse pic.

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      • jfines69
        Paid Member

        • Jun 2010
        • 28612

        #4
        I'm in on the PSD also... On the closeups of the edge with the possible clip I can see the inside of the rim on both sides of the coin... Circulation has worn it down but they are still there... May very well have been used as jewelry but it is difficult to say!!!
        Jim
        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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        • 11997755
          Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 180

          #5
          Assuming it is PSD, how would the Blakesley effect on both the obverse and reverse be explained ? Wouldn't it be possible for a planchet with a very minor clip to exhibit a partial forming of the rim ? My thoughts are that it is a straight clip, the striations are the contours that were on the edge of the material that the planchet was punched from. And I will add, I have been dead wrong on more than one occasion.

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          • mustbebob
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Jul 2008
            • 12758

            #6
            I do not know for sure, but I do not believe the Blakesly effect would be visible on a clip so minor. I would not completely rule out a clip though. It looks perfect from the reverse, but the damage to that area is suspect. In other words...I don't know but it is possible there is PSD to the original clip area.
            Bob Piazza
            Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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            • stoneman227
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 2086

              #7
              The edge view throws me off with what looks like incuse reeding. It does though have the very thing I look for to determine a clip , which is what I think of as reverse fading of the rim.
              The rim seems to fade away from the clip as it moves toward the center of the coin. Here is a pic of a dime clip that showes it as well.

              John

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              So sad ... My reverse consumption engine was a broken fuel gauge ... gonna look at coins now. John

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              • jfines69
                Paid Member

                • Jun 2010
                • 28612

                #8
                Originally posted by stoneman227
                The edge view throws me off with what looks like incuse reeding. It does though have the very thing I look for to determine a clip , which is what I think of as reverse fading of the rim.
                The rim seems to fade away from the clip as it moves toward the center of the coin. Here is a pic of a dime clip that showes it as well.

                John

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                Nice comparison coin... The big difference I see between yours and the OPs coin is yours does not appear to show any sign of the inside rim edge... The OPs coin there appears to be a faint outline of the rims inside edge on both sides but they are worn... Then again it could be my pair of doilies showing up due to over anal eyesing
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • jfines69
                  Paid Member

                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28612

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 11997755
                  Assuming it is PSD, how would the Blakesley effect on both the obverse and reverse be explained ? Wouldn't it be possible for a planchet with a very minor clip to exhibit a partial forming of the rim ? My thoughts are that it is a straight clip, the striations are the contours that were on the edge of the material that the planchet was punched from. And I will add, I have been dead wrong on more than one occasion.
                  It could be the PSD throwing me off but there appears to be damage on the jacket and the rev rim at STAT... That damage looks like it was held with a pair of pliers??? It could just be me over anal eyesing as I have a tendency to do It may be a good idea to have Mike Diamond have a look??? With the other pros that have already chimed in his input wouldn't hurt!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • 11997755
                    Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 180

                    #10
                    It may be a good idea to have Mike Diamond have a look???
                    I hate to bother him with something like this. It's one I was curios about. I'll toss it in the unknown bottle. Thank you for your help everyone.

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                    • jfines69
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28612

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 11997755
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                      I hate to bother him with something like this. It's one I was curios about. I'll toss it in the unknown bottle. Thank you for your help everyone.
                      No problem... It is definitely one to keep because it is highly possible it is a clip... You are always welcome!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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