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    1919 Lincoln feedback

    Hello,again Iím posting a 1919 Lincoln
    Iím learning how to distinguish the characteristics of typical markings and actual error and would like to get anyoneís experience on this one.
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    I'm not a pro at this, but I think you may have a slight off center strike. Let's see what the experts think!

    Here is a link to error-ref.com for off center strike http://www.error-ref.com/?s=off+center+strike

    Also... looking at the obverse it looks like it might be a woody, which is a nickname for a coin with an improper alloy mixture. Kind of hard to tell for sure, and the reverse has some stains, but I think it's a woody. Here is the link to our glossary for Improper Alloy Mixture http://www.lincolncentforum.com/term...lloy%20Mixture

    Thank you for posting the photo of the reverse of the coin, that really helps!
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    Welcome.
    Is this coin larger in diameter than a regular cent (19mm)?
    (Just put this back to back with a regular cent and see if this one's larger if you don't have calipers.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post
    Welcome.
    Is this coin larger in diameter than a regular cent (19mm)?
    (Just put this back to back with a regular cent and see if this one's larger if you don't have calipers.)
    Very very wise advice, I'm not sure but my first thought was it may have been gently flattened on the one side then 99 years of wear smoothed it.

    Another easy check is if you have a cent folder, see if it plugs in like other normal ones or if it's slightly bigger and really hard to push it in.

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    I'm thinking it's been in a bezel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enamel7 View Post
    I'm thinking it's been in a bezel.
    Yep, after looking closer at the reverse I think you are right, the rim was flattened by being in one of those "lucky cent" bezels.
    You can see the inner opening line on the reverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enamel7 View Post
    I'm thinking it's been in a bezel.

    Ahhh, is that (bezel) what is causing the flatter secondary rim towards the outside of the coin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petespockets55 View Post

    Ahhh, is that (bezel) what is causing the flatter secondary rim towards the outside of the coin?
    Shows best on the rev right over unum and near the stalk, you can see the flattened part (flatter secondary rim) where the bezel/holder was clamped on it then you see the raised line inside of that where the bezel opening was.

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    I agree the rim is damaged, possibly from being in bezel as Gilbert suggested. Other than that, I am just seeing some staining. I don't see any genuine errors. Welcome to the forum, by the way.
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    I am in with the bezel also... This is known as Post Strike Damage (PSD)... Here is the definition from our Glossary-

    Post-strike Damage:
    This term is now preferred over Post Mint Damage. This is any damage that happens to a coin after the moment it is struck, including contact marks the coin may suffer before leaving the mint from falling into hoppers, or being bagged, etc. Of course, anything that happens to the coin during its life-span in circulation also falls into this category, such as purposeful or accidental hits, corrosion, unnatural toning, etc.

    Also the damage on the rev could be from the coin being removed from the bezel??? The color in the gouges is much lighter than the surrounding areas!!!
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