DDR or plating issues? I've got a few days off so this I'm sure won't be the last...

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I think this one looks very similar to cc's 001 and Wexler's 005 which do not cross over but mine does not have the crazy abrasions that are on both of those. I thought mine might be an earlier die state but the reverse devices are very mushy like a later die state even though there aren't many abrasions.

cc link (http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=lds)

Wexler link (http://doubleddie.com/828844.html)

Thanks for looking and let me know what you think, Jon.

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Obverse and reverse full pics.

[VAB2013]

Even though the Coppercoins and Wexler listings do not list that they are the same, I believe they are the same die. There are many die abrasions that are the same on both. Like you said, I'm not seeing die scratches on your coin, but I am seeing what looks like it could be similar doubling. Can you get a close up of the R - Liberty?

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Thanks for looking Viv!! Started vacation about 3 today so I'm not able to do more pics now but will in the morning. Let me know if you need anything other than the "R".

[VAB2013]

Thanks for looking Viv!! Started vacation about 3 today so I'm not able to do more pics now but will in the morning. Let me know if you need anything other than the "R".

Thank you Jon! Happy Vacation! It's the R in America... sorry, long day! But I'm off tomorrow.... Saturday!!!

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Thank you Jon! Happy Vacation! It's the R in America... sorry, long day! But I'm off tomorrow.... Saturday!!!

Sweet!! It sounded like Saturday was on the bubble, glad you got it off!

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Thank you Jon! Happy Vacation! It's the R in America... sorry, long day! But I'm off tomorrow.... Saturday!!!

Here are a couple of shots of the "R" in AMERICA. Most of the shots I took earlier came easy but the R is making me work for it. That's why I'm questioning plating or lighting issues. I have to almost manipulate it to see what I want to see and I would not think you would have to do that if it were a true doubled die. See what you think.

[VAB2013]

Let's see what Jim thinks about this one Jon! Thank you for the follow up pics! This looks like a nice 84! Coppercoins 001 is LDS and I think Wexler's 005 is too, there's a ridge ring of die wear on both examples. Your coin looks MDS I think, but I see what you are saying about your devices looking mushy even though there are not very many die abrasions.

Edit: I also looked at VV's 84 DDR's, there are two listed. I don't think they are the same as CC's 001 or Wexler's 005. If I had to pick one of the VV's I'd have to say 001, but it does not have the same die scratches as CC and Wexler's.

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Let's see what Jim thinks about this one Jon! Thank you for the follow up pics! This looks like a nice 84! Coppercoins 001 is LDS and I think Wexler's 005 is too, there's a ridge ring of die wear on both examples. Your coin looks MDS I think, but I see what you are saying about your devices looking mushy even though there are not very many die abrasions.

Edit: I also looked at VV's 84 DDR's, there are two listed. I don't think they are the same as CC's 001 or Wexler's 005. If I had to pick one of the VV's I'd have to say 001, but it does not have the same die scratches as CC and Wexler's.

Thanks for digging into it Viv!! We'll see what Jim has to say and go from there. I am pretty sure too that cc 001 and Wexler 005 are the same though.

[jfines69]

I agree on the CC 001 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=lds and Wexler 005 http://doubleddie.com/828844.html being the same with Wexlers being an earlier die stage... There are numerous die abrasions between the NE of ONE and around the NT of CENT that match up... The abrasions on CCs are much lighter do to die wear and more abrasions... As foryour coin it is not CCs 001 or Wexlers 005... Notice the separation line on the R of AMERICAs angled leg... CC and Wexlers is toward the outside of the leg and on your coin the possible separation line is toward the inside... The tip of your R does not show the split that is still visible on CCs LDS sample... Yours may be a DDR or a trick of the light??? I will need to look a little deeper into your images... I need a shirt with the letters QAE (Over Anal Eyeser) on the front and a cent on the back

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I agree on the CC 001 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=lds and Wexler 005 http://doubleddie.com/828844.html being the same with Wexlers being an earlier die stage... There are numerous die abrasions between the NE of ONE and around the NT of CENT that match up... The abrasions on CCs are much lighter do to die wear and more abrasions... As foryour coin it is not CCs 001 or Wexlers 005... Notice the separation line on the R of AMERICAs angled leg... CC and Wexlers is toward the outside of the leg and on your coin the possible separation line is toward the inside... The tip of your R does not show the split that is still visible on CCs LDS sample... Yours may be a DDR or a trick of the light??? I will need to look a little deeper into your images... I need a shirt with the letters QAE (Over Anal Eyeser) on the front and a cent on the back

Thanks for looking Jim. Sometimes the lighting gets me and this may be one of those times. That would be al cool shirt!!