"One thing I will make note of and that is about class 6 doubled dies. The terminology for class 6 is "distended Hub Doubling". Extra thickness of all the devices does not mean it is a class 6. There is usually some twisting or distortion associated with it. This is usually seen best on the tail of the 9, the IBE of LIBERTY or the E of WE for obverse doubled dies. Just look up class 6 and you will see what I mean.
On this particular example, almost all of the devices show some extra thickness. This is normally your clue that this is deterioration as it affects everything. As the die continues to strike coins, the relatively sharp edges gives way to mushiness which then leads to extra thickness. Put that together with regular circulation wear, and you can see where the significant extra thickness comes from."
That's a good question Dearing and I can see why you would think it might be a die clash. But the raised area in column 2 and above the Memorial is not typically where the clash is seen. I do see something there but it's hard to tell for sure without close up pics. Please give this one an acetone bath and get some closer pics with your new scope!
That's a good question Dearing and I can see why you would think it might be a die clash. But the raised area in column 2 and above the Memorial is not typically where the clash is seen. I do see something there but it's hard to tell for sure without close up pics. Please give this one an acetone bath and get some closer pics with your new scope!
That's a good question Dearing and I can see why you would think it might be a die clash. But the raised area in column 2 and above the Memorial is not typically where the clash is seen. I do see something there but it's hard to tell for sure without close up pics. Please give this one an acetone bath and get some closer pics with your new scope!
The part that came oit of the top was dirt or something but the inside of the columns aint budging lol ill get some acetone today and get back with u the link and pics are awesome tools
I think this one gets everyone the first time they see it and there were some ideas on what it was but nothing solid. This is a somewhat common occurance on the 73D for some reason and I think maybe the general consensus was that it could have been a damaged working hub. I posted one and I think Sheila did too. I'll do some digging around to see if I can find the posts. I might have even saved my find. If you look on the obverse just behind (west)of Abe's shoulder in the field, there is a raised area that looks like heavy abrasions to go along with what you're seeing on the reverse.
Thank you Jon for your research and information! John (stoneman227)'s study linking this to Recurring Die Subsidence Errors looks spot on! Mike Diamond's article shows this anomaly on a 1973D Lincoln cent and he explains that the defect is always found on the left side of the Memorial between columns 1-3, that the outline and height is slightly different from die to die but the location is quite consistent. Mike mentions at least 8 dies being represented and John identified 14 different dies in his study.
Thank you Jon for your research and information! John (stoneman227)'s study linking this to Recurring Die Subsidence Errors looks spot on! Mike Diamond's article shows this anomaly on a 1973D Lincoln cent and he explains that the defect is always found on the left side of the Memorial between columns 1-3, that the outline and height is slightly different from die to die but the location is quite consistent. Mike mentions at least 8 dies being represented and John identified 14 different dies in his study.
That was all very interesting and a learning experience for me of course i had to stop n fix my electricity that blew fuses lol thank y'all
Yeah... there's so much great information on this forum from members who have been doing this a lot longer than myself and many others of us! It's great to go back and read these threads! I've always wondered if you added up all the years' experience and knowledge our mentors here have... how big would that number be... several hundreds, maybe more than that!
Yeah i bet so, lots of knowledge here, i believe iys the best one myself its hard for me to read and remember n learn im more hands on and i learn faster, ya know, but im trying hard and thanks to yall being patient i havent failed, so thank yall
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