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    2012 P weird feature

    I found 3 2012 P coins with this exact feature. It is raised and I don't think it is PSD due to a side hit to the rim as there are no significant traces of a hit there, neither observable distortion of the rim. I don't think it is a ring ridge either as it is located in a very defined small area and it does not have the curvature normally observed on them. It could be a cud; but I'm not sure as the rim is untouched by it. A plating bubble does not appear to be the case as it is repeated almost identically in all 3 coins plus I applied pressure with a toothpick and there was no effect on the anomaly. The features are almost identical in all 3 coins so I think it was in the die when the coins were struck. My best choice is a die chip/IDB; but being so regular makes me doubt it.

    Can you help identifying it?

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    Adrian

    Here are pictures for one of the coins.

    Tue Nov 06 11-00-46.jpgTue Nov 06 11-01-32.jpgTue Nov 06 11-03-18.jpgTue Nov 06 10-58-43.jpg

    And here are pictures of the same feature on the other 2 coins.
    Tue Nov 06 11-28-23.jpgTue Nov 06 11-28-57.jpg

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    Looks like you have a die dent. Here's the definition and a pic link below from our glossary:

    Die Dent: Any unintentional impression into the die face. The portion of the coin struck by the die dent will show as raised metal.


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    Yes Viv, it looks like that's what it is. New knowledge for me...
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    That's pretty cool you found 3 Adrian. They do like just slightly different, so maybe different dies?

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    Honestly, I haven't looked carefully Jon, however there is some circumstantial evidence which makes me tentatively lean towards it being the same die. I found all 3 in a couple of OBW rolls containing a mix of all kinds of circulated coins plus a few well preserved 2012 Ps... Looks to me it's too much of a coincidence they were in such "consecutive rolls"... Also the 3 features appear to be for me in precisely the same location. Not very likely that several dies got a hit/dent in exactly the same place. Perhaps the minor differences are just different stages of the same; but this is just thinking and a thorough analysis of the features and other markers can tell for sure as you suggested.
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    Lite reflection is making it difficult to tell for sure but they do look like the same die??? They do appear to be the same size in all directions and in the same locations!!!
    Jim
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    Look for markers on all three if you want to confirm. Die dots or scratches would be a good place to start.

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