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  • VAB2013
    Forum Ambassador
    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #16
    You're welcome Adrian! I've never found a dropped letter but they are interesting! The example in the glossary shows a somewhat distorted incuse B on the rim. And the example from Error-Ref shows a well defined A on the reverse. So I guess it depends upon how solid the greasy gunk is when it drops out of the die, and where it lands, as to how well defined the shape of the incuse dropped letter is on the coin.

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    • jfines69
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2010
      • 28621

      #17
      Cool Vivien we all see it now... Group induced pair of doilies Adrian - If you try lighting at different angles/directions you may be able to get that to show up better???
      Jim
      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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      • makecents
        Paid Member

        • Jun 2017
        • 11037

        #18
        Originally posted by VAB2013
        Here is your pic with it marked. For some reason I could not attach it to the previous post.
        Very cool Viv!! I did not notice that before. Who's wearing the Jim glasses now?!


        Added by Jim -
        Last edited by jfines69; 11-11-2018, 05:03 AM.

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        • makecents
          Paid Member

          • Jun 2017
          • 11037

          #19
          Originally posted by jfines69
          This must be the psychological phenomenon of group pareidolia (pair of doilies) 'cause I see the cracks John (A.K.A. Jon/makecents) has pointed out Jon could very well be correct on multiple cracks... I do see some in the hair but not 100% sure??? I still can not see the W... Hopefully Vivien can point it out for us??? I wondered how come my glasses weren't working so well lately Every one else is using them

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          • Coin5
            Member
            • Jun 2018
            • 419

            #20
            Originally posted by jfines69
            Cool Vivien we all see it now... Group induced pair of doilies Adrian - If you try lighting at different angles/directions you may be able to get that to show up better???
            Jim, here are a few more pics I took playing with oblique lightning, hope they are better. It looks like the W Viv discovered is really there; but I don't know if it's raised or incuse and it is very very weak, I can't see it with the loupe... can you PM me your glasses?
            Thanks,
            Adrian

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            • jfines69
              Paid Member

              • Jun 2010
              • 28621

              #21
              Nice follow up pics thanks... Looking thru those pics it may just be die damage or wear and not a dropped letter... The look in relief to me... Also notice just off the tips of the W are more of the same anomaly!!!
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • Coin5
                Member
                • Jun 2018
                • 419

                #22
                Yes Jim, I noticed the same features on top of the W on WE. It all looks raised to me, so I think the W shape is just a rare coincidence or something esle I don't know about... Let's see if others see something different.
                Thank you,
                Adrian

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                • VAB2013
                  Forum Ambassador
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 12351

                  #23
                  I agree with you guys. In the latest follow up pics you can see more of the "what looks like tops of the W" around the edge of the coin and it does appear raised. It doesn't match with a die clash so it's more than likely stain, die damage or die wear as Jim said. Thank you Adrian for helping us follow through with this!

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