That's the best way to learn... just ask questions! Here's the definition for Die Gouge from our Glossary. The link below the definition will show you a photo example.
Die Gouge: A furrow of metal scraped out of a die. Like other recessed die damage, the result will be a raised section of metal on the coins the die strikes.
Also here is the definition for PSD (Post Strike Damage) which is preferred over PMD because some damages can happen after the strike but before the coin leaves the mint.
Post-strike Damage: This term is now preferred over Post Mint Damage. This is any damage that happens to a coin after the moment it is struck, including contact marks the coin may suffer before leaving the mint from falling into hoppers, or being bagged, etc. Of course, anything that happens to the coin during its life-span in circulation also falls into this category, such as purposeful or accidental hits, corrosion, unnatural toning, etc.
Viv, it's hard to distinguish between what I've seen posted in guides (die cracks, die gouges, die scratches, and pmd), but with time I'll probably learn. I'm still in my first month. Haha, not even baby steps. I do seem to be a 'magnet' to damaged coins. Thanks for taking the time to post the picture and definition of gouges.
Look at this marvelous PMD found a few weeks ago. Actually, I think it's quite interesting to look at. I would love to make a poster of it. It's of a Sagawea 2000-P dollar, 'Flying through Rolling Thoughts'. And a torched penny, 'The Dragon Lair'. Also very interesting.
Viv, it's hard to distinguish between what I've seen posted in guides (die cracks, die gouges, die scratches, and pmd), but with time I'll probably learn. I'm still in my first month. Haha, not even baby steps. I do seem to be a 'magnet' to damaged coins. Thanks for taking the time to post the picture and definition of gouges.
Look at this marvelous PMD found a few weeks ago. Actually, I think it's quite interesting to look at. I would love to make a poster of it. It's of a Sagawea 2000-P dollar. And a torched penny. Also very interesting.
In general, damage will be incuse on the coin, while die damage will be raised on the coin.
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willbrooks, I guess the gouge is then in the die (like a dent?) then, which would let more melted metal to flow into that space, which in turn gets put on the coin? That's what I gathered from Viv's picture, and guides online. So then, any dents on a coin are pmd? And any raised lines are die related? Am pretty sure there may be more 'fine tuning' to that thought. Since I have over 5000 coins to look at here, I may eventually see enough lines to help me along. Or, I may start seeing stars!
On the 2006 it took a hit... The dollar looks like corrosion??? As for the cent it looks like it was crushed or hit with something??? On the cent you have shown us the rev (reverse) what does the obv (obverse) look like??? In all cases they are PSD (Post Strike Damage)... Hope that helps a little!!!
Added - I moved this thread to Collector Q&A forum!!!
Added 2 - The dollar coin and cent would have been best in a separate thread and the dollar coin in Off Topic Discussion forum since it is not a lincoln cent... You would get more looks and comments!!!
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On the 2006 it took a hit... The dollar looks like corrosion??? As for the cent it looks like it was crushed or hit with something??? On the cent you have shown us the rev (reverse) what does the obv (obverse) look like??? In all cases they are PSD (Post Strike Damage)... Hope that helps a little!!!
Added - I moved this thread to Collector Q&A forum!!!
Added 2 - The dollar coin and cent would have been best in a separate thread and the dollar coin in Off Topic Discussion forum since it is not a lincoln cent... You would get more looks and comments!!!
The dollar has a weird' kind of corrosion, foamy look, not powdery. Still looks neat to me. The cent was crushed, but what an unusual design ensued.
Here is the obverse of it (I like the reverse!)
Cool... Thanks for the follow up... That dollar is cool looking... What year is that dollar??? The penny almost looks like it was crushed in a crimping tool??? The design on both sides is very similar!!!
Jim
(A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!
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