1939P Spiked Head w/LAM

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  • joel
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    • Feb 2014
    • 8019

    #1

    Error Other | 1939P Spiked Head w/LAM

    Cuds on Coins only shows one Spiked Head for the 30 to 39 period. This would be the second. Thanks for looking.
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  • VAB2013
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    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #2
    Very nice old spike and lam Larry J.! I'm with you, it does look like a lam. Is that portion of the lam that is curled up folded over? If it is, and it was flattened back out, it looks like it would match the incuse area. But, the more I look at it, I'm kinda torn between lam and hit Let's see what the guys think!
    Last edited by VAB2013; 09-01-2019, 07:01 PM.

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    • Rowdyricster
      Paid Member

      • Feb 2019
      • 823

      #3
      Nice one, Larry. I always enjoy spiked heads.

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      • VAB2013
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        • Nov 2013
        • 12351

        #4
        This one is still bugging me... typically you see a spike to a IDB or RIDB or just a little die chip. The odds to see an isolated lam (or a hit that looks like that if that's what it is), those odds have got to be slim. Very intriguing!

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        • makecents
          Paid Member

          • Jun 2017
          • 11037

          #5
          Very cool find Larry!! I'm seeing a lam folded back and looks to be all there but would like to here JC's take on whether it's a spike head or not. Like Viv said, they are usually tied to a chip/IDB or RIDB. The description of a spike head is a "die crack" and don't know if a lam would fall under the same specs.

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          • VAB2013
            Forum Ambassador
            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #6
            Originally posted by makecents
            Very cool find Larry!! I'm seeing a lam folded back and looks to be all there but would like to here JC's take on whether it's a spike head or not. Like Viv said, they are usually tied to a chip/IDB or RIDB. The description of a spike head is a "die crack" and don't know if a lam would fall under the same specs.
            Jon I think you are right, if it's all lam then it would not be a spike. I can see where it could be hard to tell whether it's all lam, or a smoothed over die crack, on a nice old wheat like this! A tough one to figure out!

            Larry J. what are your thoughts? Can you get a close up of the die crack from the rim?

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            • joel
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              • Feb 2014
              • 8019

              #7
              Originally posted by VAB2013
              Jon I think you are right, if it's all lam then it would not be a spike. I can see where it could be hard to tell whether it's all lam, or a smoothed over die crack, on a nice old wheat like this! A tough one to figure out!

              Larry J. what are your thoughts? Can you get a close up of the die crack from the rim?
              Vivien, that is my close up but i will see if I can do better. Thanks!!

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              • VAB2013
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                • Nov 2013
                • 12351

                #8
                Originally posted by joel
                Vivien, that is my close up but i will see if I can do better. Thanks!!
                Okay cool! Thank you Larry J! We will be looking for your updated pic

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                • joel
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 8019

                  #9
                  Upon further observation I have found that what I have is a lamination error. Sorry for the confusion I have caused!!
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                  • VAB2013
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                    • Nov 2013
                    • 12351

                    #10
                    Originally posted by joel
                    Upon further observation I have found that what I have is a lamination error. Sorry for the confusion I have caused!!
                    It's okay Larry J., you made us all think about it! Thank you for the follow up observation and photos! Looks like all lam to me too - nice job on the pics!

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                    • jfines69
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28609

                      #11
                      Nice lam find... At first look I thought it was a spike also... I think the circ wear rolled the lip on the separation giving it the crack appearance??? By the looks of the flap folded over the complete piece of metal remains... It also looks like the lam continues all of the way to the coins rim but has not broken loose!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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