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1972 DDOs 003 & 008 comparison
I made an attempt to photograph several 1972 DDO die 003s and 008s to show similarities and differences. Both are a CW (weakest hubbing to strongest) Class I (rotated) Doubled Die Obverses.
Below are the results. The earlier die state examples I reckon are between EDS and EMDS and the later examples (shown in my second post) are LDS (though the 003 is could be closer LMDS) paired with EMDS.
These two DDOs are very similar. The biggest difference I identified was the degree of doubling shown on the date; followed by the BE and in LIBERTY; the N from IN; G from GOD; and the RS from TRUST.
Yes the die markers help, especially if you consider the gouges above the Ts remain until MDS on the 008, then disappear, whereas the 003 has a flood of additional markers from MDS through LDS. My suggestion is to examine the date, look for known markers and attribute accordingly.
Last edited by jcuve; 12-29-2012 at 07:17 AM.
Jason Cuvelier
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Jason Cuvelier
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I have more examples on the Photo gallery. Now I would like to get image of the 004 & 006 side by side.
Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.
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Oh boy do I need that! It seems everytime I say a 3 it's an 8 and visaversa!
Thanks again for the great tools. That reminds me, I will send that 1991p clash out tomorrow.
Rog
Roger
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I would like to have a side by side for the 002 and 007 - if I had an 004 I would try that along with an 005 and then 007.
Jason Cuvelier
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I've got images of the 007 and I need to retake images of the 002. That was already in my plans. Just haven't done that yet.
Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.
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nice work..I didn't realize how close they look...
Thanks for the show and tell
onecent1909
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onecent1909
nice work..I didn't realize how close they look...
Thanks for the show and tell
onecent1909
Now you see why the 003 & 008 are hard to tell. Now with these images it helps having them side by side.
Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.
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Thanks Coop and Jason!
What great work you fella's do for the Numismatic field and us pupils!
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Nicely Done!! Thanks for your efforts.
WS
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