2011p WDDO-003 First half of a DDO duo from the sameBW roll this weekend.

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  • Petespockets55
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    • Dec 2014
    • 6882

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    2011p WDDO-003 First half of a DDO duo from the sameBW roll this weekend.

    Glad to find this after somewhat of a drought the last couple of months with bank rolls. And it's in decent shape.

    It was the second 2011p DDO I pulled from the same roll this weekend. Not as impressive as the other one I'll post next. But I'll take it.
    It has some markers mentioned on DD by Wexler like a die crack on Lincoln's forehead to his brow and one not mentioned- a die gouge through US of TRUST

    2011p WDDO-003 .

    (Only listed on Doubleddies.com)

    Thanks for looking, cliff
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  • makecents
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    • Jun 2017
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    #2
    You are on a roll, another nice find Cliff!! Congrats man!!

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    • joel
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      • Feb 2014
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      #3
      Nice find Cliff!! I like that you link us to Wexler!! Congrats!!

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      • Petespockets55
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        • Dec 2014
        • 6882

        #4
        Originally posted by joel
        Nice find Cliff!! I like that you link us to Wexler!! Congrats!!
        Thanks Larry. I noticed some others on here doing it, Jon in particular, and you're right it made it nice to reference the variety.

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        • VAB2013
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          • Nov 2013
          • 12351

          #5
          Cliff... I am sorry to be the only one so far not seeing it

          maybe I'm just tired, but your pics look out of focus right where I'm trying to see

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          • Petespockets55
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            • Dec 2014
            • 6882

            #6
            Originally posted by VAB2013
            Cliff... I am sorry to be the only one so far not seeing it

            maybe I'm just tired, but your pics look out of focus right where I'm trying to see
            Sorry Viv. Where I haven't botched the image ID, it is blurry or not lighted correctly.
            I'll get some better images this weekend.

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            • jfines69
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              • Jun 2010
              • 28618

              #7
              Coffee I need Cooofffeeee everything is blurry The only thing I can tell with some certainty is I do not see the markers at PLU???
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • Petespockets55
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                • Dec 2014
                • 6882

                #8
                Thanks Jim and Viv for keeping me on my toes because I forgot to include my reasons for the WDDO-003 determination.
                I'm trying to load images from my phone to my PC and not having much luck this morning.
                (My PC is not finding them on the chip from my phone. Not sure if it is Google images or Verizon Cloud causing the issue.)

                This is WDDO-003 but I believe the reverse die was changed out.
                I say this because there are die scratches going NE from the U of TRUST that match images on DoubledDies. These images are very difficult to get images of.
                One is on the top right of the U to the rim and the second starts just above the midway point of the U, passes through the upper curve of the S and exits to the rim.

                There is a parallel die scratch to this second one that ends at the bottom of the upper loop of the S of TRUST.

                If the die scratches were not visible on DD site I would have been really pulling my hair out because mine must be a later stage after the reverse die was changed.

                I'm of to an appt. but will try again later.

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                • Petespockets55
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                  • Dec 2014
                  • 6882

                  #9
                  Finally.
                  Here's the images of the die scratches at the U to the S of TRUST and reverse markers for the changed out reverse die.. (Die crack at right scroll to the field and die chip on the top edge of the shield above the I of PLURIBUS.)
                  Thanks agan, Cliff
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                  • VAB2013
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                    • Nov 2013
                    • 12351

                    #10
                    Thank you Cliff! I wasn't doubting your ability to know you had it, just wanted to see it! Looks good! Congrats!!!

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                    • Petespockets55
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                      • Dec 2014
                      • 6882

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VAB2013
                      Thank you Cliff! I wasn't doubting your ability to know you had it, just wanted to see it! Looks good! Congrats!!!
                      Completely ok with the questions and very understandable. I didn't do a good job in my original post explaining my reasons for determining it is 003.

                      Special thanks to you and Jim for the questions so I got a chance to clarify.

                      Edit: Here's a few more images of the date.
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                      Last edited by Petespockets55; 09-16-2018, 06:03 PM.

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                      • jfines69
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28618

                        #12
                        Cool... Thanks for the follow up... That abrasion/gouge at the S of TRUST looks spot on... Do you also have the die dot that Wexler http://doubleddie.com/431101.html points out just SW of the T??? If not you may have an earlier die stage??? That could explain the lack of gouges around the PLU and BUS???
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                        • Petespockets55
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                          • Dec 2014
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jfines69
                          Cool... Thanks for the follow up... That abrasion/gouge at the S of TRUST looks spot on... Do you also have the die dot that Wexler http://doubleddie.com/431101.html points out just SW of the T??? If not you may have an earlier die stage??? That could explain the lack of gouges around the PLU and BUS???

                          Thanks Jim.
                          I looked for that die dot originally and I still don't see it.
                          I would have been pulling my hair out trying to attribute if not for the die scratches around UST showing up in DD images.

                          Nothing on the reverse of mine looks similar to Wexlers images of the reverse.
                          (Wexler states that 2011p WDDO-001 has a second reverse which made me consider this reverse was changed out also.)

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                          • jfines69
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                            • Jun 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Petespockets55

                            Thanks Jim.
                            I looked for that die dot originally and I still don't see it.
                            I would have been pulling my hair out trying to attribute if not for the die scratches around UST showing up in DD images.

                            Nothing on the reverse of mine looks similar to Wexlers images of the reverse.
                            (Wexler states that 2011p WDDO-001 has a second reverse which made me consider this reverse was changed out also.)
                            Some times my eye-brain interconnect is inop Yours would have to be the later die stage since Wexler shows his listing as Stage A unless I read it wrong again
                            Jim
                            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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