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    1960 D Small Date unlisted "BIE"

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    Date: 1960

    Pickins have been slim lately but found a nice unlisted "BIE" tonight. Nice reverse marker too.

    Thanks for looking, Jon.
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    Jon, I'm really not sure... I have not seen any BIE's with die chips in the letters and not between them. Have you seen some like this on cuds-on-coins?

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    Actually I did not think about that. I just went back and looked and there are at least small breaks in between the letters on all of them. I suppose JC will clue me in too when he replies. Thanks for the help once again Viv!!

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    You're welcome Jon, it will be good to know what JC says since I'm not familiar with how these work. Like... if the break has to extend so far outside of the edge of the letter? Please let us know!

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    It's a good point to make. It is not considered a BIE unless there is something between the B and E or something in between the letters of LIBERTY. This example is just die chips, but it's cool anyway. The more chips, the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mustbebob View Post
    It's a good point to make. It is not considered a BIE unless there is something between the B and E or something in between the letters of LIBERTY. This example is just die chips, but it's cool anyway. The more chips, the better!
    Thanks Bob!! I tried to find more info on the "BIE" in general but could not find much. Cuds on Coins shows the numbering system and how it works and of course shows the areas in between the letters with arrows but no real description of what makes it a "BIE".

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    The criteria for a LIBERTY Die Break that I use is. “A die break, chip or crack that is between any letter, rim or bust of the word LIBERTY on the Lincoln Cent and occurs below highest level of the letters and above the lowest level of the letters of LIBERTY.”

    Note: a die chip in the letters of LIBERTY is not a LIBERTY Die Break. These die chip are sometime called blocked or clogged letters with nicknames like ‘Skirted R”.

    Now the question on this one, the die chip in the 'E'. Is the chip wider than the top bar of the 'E".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC Stevens View Post
    The criteria for a LIBERTY Die Break that I use is. “A die break, chip or crack that is between any letter, rim or bust of the word LIBERTY on the Lincoln Cent and occurs below highest level of the letters and above the lowest level of the letters of LIBERTY.”

    Note: a die chip in the letters of LIBERTY is not a LIBERTY Die Break. These die chip are sometime called blocked or clogged letters with nicknames like ‘Skirted R”.
    Thank you JC!! Sorry, I probably wasted your time then on this one I just sent you. I really appreciate all the time and knowledge you put forth for us!

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    Not so fast.

    Now the question on this one, the die chip in the 'E'. Is the chip wider than the top bar of the 'E".
    Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC Stevens View Post
    Not so fast.

    Now the question on this one, the die chip in the 'E'. Is the chip wider than the top bar of the 'E".
    Ahhh. I'll get a cleaner pic of the "E" when I get home this evening for you and we'll go from there. Thank you sir!

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