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lineop3
06-01-2011, 02:47 PM
The coin is pretty dark and worn but I can clearly see a second image.
What do you call it...a clash or a double?
Aisha
jcuve
06-01-2011, 03:25 PM
That's rather curious. It could be die wear or a plating issue but it also may be tied into a clash...someone should probably take a looksy at this one...
jfines69
06-01-2011, 03:33 PM
With all of the die abrasions I believe the mint was trying to get rid of a DD... I don't think a plating issue would look that good... Time for Aisha to join the ranks of Inspector B/C in finding the strangest errors/varieties... LOL... You have to send this one in it is cool!!!
mustbebob
06-01-2011, 04:41 PM
I am curious because the whole profile is not doubled like the forehead, lips and chin areas are. I can say that I don't know what it is at this point.
copperlover
06-01-2011, 04:50 PM
I would agree with Bob that this does not appear doubled from the image presented. If we could see more of the obverse and
the reverse that might shed a better light on how the final outcome is determined.
Lucien
hasfam
06-01-2011, 05:10 PM
yes, intersting at the very least. More photos perhaps? oh, and by the way, congrats on your new listings on CC. I had checked them out a few days ago. Nice.
copperlover
06-01-2011, 05:29 PM
Thanks for the comments Rock. It supports most of the other opinions.
Lucien
jcuve
06-01-2011, 06:01 PM
I feel like the doubling is inconsistent with a counterclash that had much of the original clash polished off - but not impossible I guess. Any chance you could poke it and see if it flexes to rule out a plating issue?
jallengomez
06-01-2011, 07:34 PM
Looks like reduction lathe doubling almost.
http://doubleddie.com/58285.html
coinman2009
06-01-2011, 07:37 PM
Looks like reduction lathe doubling almost.
http://doubleddie.com/58285.html
Ya Might Be On To Something There! Good Info! Thanks!:tinysmile_hmm_t:
georoxx
06-01-2011, 07:59 PM
Am I missing something here..? I have seen no mention of date or mint. We might be able to rule out plating issues.
-George
Added. OK. I just noticed the file name. My bad. <sheepish smile>
jallengomez
06-01-2011, 08:01 PM
Or maybe even more likely abrasion doubling.
http://doubleddie.com/144864.html
coinman2009
06-01-2011, 08:17 PM
I Like This One Even Better! I'd say this is it!:tinysmile_eyebrow_t
lineop3
06-02-2011, 03:45 AM
I Like This One Even Better! I'd say this is it!:tinysmile_eyebrow_t
I don't think it is.
Aisha
lineop3
06-02-2011, 03:47 AM
I feel like the doubling is inconsistent with a counterclash that had much of the original clash polished off - but not impossible I guess. Any chance you could poke it and see if it flexes to rule out a plating issue?
There's no give there JC...it's solid.
Aisha
lineop3
06-02-2011, 03:51 AM
I would agree with Bob that this does not appear doubled from the image presented. If we could see more of the obverse and
the reverse that might shed a better light on how the final outcome is determined.
Lucien
There's nothing else to see on the obverse nor on the reverse, otherwise I would have photographed it.
Aisha
lineop3
06-02-2011, 03:55 AM
Looks like reduction lathe doubling almost.
http://doubleddie.com/58285.html
This is more likely to be the culprit. Thanks!
Aisha
jfines69
06-02-2011, 05:08 AM
I vote for reduction lathe process!!!
lara4228
06-02-2011, 05:17 AM
I agree with Reduction Lathe Doubling. They do tend to look similar.
mustbebob
06-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Sorry folks, but this is not reduction lathe doubling. The reduction of the image would not appear sporadically like this coin, nor would it be thicker in some places than others. It would be a lot easier if someone would just mention the date of the coin (hint- hint Aisha). Reduction lathe doubling was prevalent in certain year groups. If we don't know the date, we can't associate it with that. Ultimately, it needs to be examined, but I am pretty sure it is not reduction lathe doubling.
lineop3
06-02-2011, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=mustbebob;90607]It would be a lot easier if someone would just mention the date of the coin (hint- hint Aisha).
The date is on the photo. For those who missed it, it's a 1985P. :) :)
Aisha
mustbebob
06-03-2011, 03:50 AM
Thanks Aisha. I didn't even see it there. The date further confirms (to me at least), that this is not reduction lathe doubling.
jfines69
06-03-2011, 08:44 AM
I think the term need to be changed to Lathe Reduction Doubling... Or LARD for short... LOL... If not reduction lathe doubling(RLD) then I would think Die Abrasion Doubling(DAD)... There is alot of abrasion in those areas!!!
I agree with Bob, your coin needs to be examined Aisha.
Billy (dvn)