2001d ddr??

[tinytinkerbell]

On the reverse of this 2001D both U's in UNUM immediately stood out as "interesting" to me. At first I was thinking possible hit of some sort but the "hits" appeared rounded to the shape of the U and exactly the same on both U's.. Then I decided to get out my dino and check under higher magnification. Using the dino I see what appears to be doubling throughout E. PLURIBUS UNUM. Does this look like true doubling?

First two photos are of the U's in UNUM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/259903_156231277779203_100001769955994_318260_4297 542_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252888_156231284445869_100001769955994_318261_8038 943_n.jpg

Now notice the bottom of the P and L
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262158_156231307779200_100001769955994_318262_5829 645_n.jpg
bottom of the R
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255128_156231344445863_100001769955994_318263_2183 261_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263803_156231354445862_100001769955994_318264_4059 719_n.jpg

If this isn't doubling I'm really losing my touch! lol

[Maineman750]

I see it but it appears to be MD...flat and taken off the devices.We'll see what the others have to say as pics on the pc give me trouble sometimes

[tinytinkerbell]

arrrgggghhhh! don't tell me that! *fingers in ears* la-la-la-la... I can't hear you....la-la-la-la... lol...

[mustbebob]

Sorry, but it is MD as Maineman suggests.

[tinytinkerbell]

Sorry, but it is MD as Maineman suggests.

ok.. thanks guys... back to searching... :LOL_Hair:

[Maineman750]

OK...it's not machine doubling, it's strike doubling :)....one of the other clues for me was the way the light reflected off the doubling...if it was on the same plane as the device, we wouldn't see that.But again, let's hope I'm wrong...mustbebob can put me in my place :LOL_Hair:

Well, there goes that idea...he must have been typing at the same time...sorry

[mustbebob]

Basically, strike doubling and machine doubling are the same thing. The act of the strike is what causes the anomaly, and since the strike is by a machine.....simply semantics here.

http://coins.about.com/od/coinsglossary/g/mechanical_doub.htm

[tinytinkerbell]

OK...it's not machine doubling, it's strike doubling :)....one of the other clues for me was the way the light reflected off the doubling...if it was on the same plane as the device, we wouldn't see that.But again, let's hope I'm wrong...mustbebob can put me in my place :LOL_Hair:

Well, there goes that idea...he must have been typing at the same time...sorry

*kicking the dirt*... yeah, there goes that! ...:LOL_Hair:
Thanks for the prompt replies Mainman and Bob you guys are great :D

[Maineman750]

"Basically, strike doubling and machine doubling are the same thing"

Sorry Bob, I was being facetious and thought TTB knew that....my mistake if it was otherwise.

[tinytinkerbell]

For better understanding MD, I broke out my celestron (instead of the dino) and took another picture.. I circled what I am questioning.. Is this really MD?

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/260243_156241311111533_100001769955994_318304_2513 670_n.jpg

[jallengomez]

I'm not convinced this is strictly die-shift doubling.

[georoxx]

May sound strange, but I'd like to see an improved view of the east side of the 2nd U of UNUM.

-George

[Maineman750]

Hmmm....I can't explain those notches....there is the possibility of MD on a DD only I can't see extra thickness on the dots..typically they will elongate when the doubling is in that area. As I always say, when in doubt, keep it.This is definitely something I can't answer...and I see you pointed it out earlier but the text was between the pics so Bob and I both missed it.Let's see if he comes back now that you've knocked me down :LOL_Hair:

[tinytinkerbell]

I think my dino is part the blame for not capturing correctly what I see/have.. I have a new scope coming but it's not here yet so I'm trying to take pic's and make "the best of" with what I do have.. who knows.. not sure I want to toss this coin back in the junk pile yet! lol

[tinytinkerbell]

If you guys don't mind I will take more pictures from all different angles for better examination.. to me, this coin is really different then all the other MD's I've come across.. thanks in advance for any and all help :)

[georoxx]

We're all hoping for nice finds from people on this forum.

-George

[mustbebob]

Sorry Roger. I didn't realize you were being facetious. That's twice today when folks meant to be funny or meant something else, and I missed the boat. Anyway, that's not here nor there.
I did also miss the notching TTB. Is it possible that I could examine this coin?

[tinytinkerbell]

Sorry Roger. I didn't realize you were being facetious. That's twice today when folks meant to be funny or meant something else, and I missed the boat. Anyway, that's not here nor there.
I did also miss the notching TTB. Is it possible that I could examine this coin?


Yes! I'd love to send it to you to examine... I am having a heck of a time trying to take pictures with the darn celestron I bought as a replacement to my dino a few months back.. it takes about 12 seconds just to try and focus one move! I'm literally viewing the forum while trying to focus the thing on the coin..

[copperlover]

It is so hard to get the focus exactly. I sympathize with you for your efforts.At first glace I said MD but the notches made me think again. I looked at the bottom of the U and it looked imperfect. Just keep searching and never say never.

Lucien

[jallengomez]

I think my dino is part the blame for not capturing correctly what I see/have.. I have a new scope coming but it's not here yet so I'm trying to take pic's and make "the best of" with what I do have.. who knows.. not sure I want to toss this coin back in the junk pile yet! lol

Yeah, yeah, yeah...it's always your dino, or your keyboard...never your fault; nope. :tinysmile_eyebrow_t

LOL...I don't think I would toss that one just yet. I might be a bit premature, but I'm going to say nice find.

[tinytinkerbell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah...it's always your dino, or your keyboard...never your fault; nope. :tinysmile_eyebrow_t

LOL...I don't think I would toss that one just yet. I might be a bit premature, but I'm going to say nice find.

hey Jody! "Talk to the hand...http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/23.gif cuz the ears don't hear ya!" lol.. Thanks... and I hope I hope it's something! http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/51.gif If it's not, the dino goes in the trash can!

[jallengomez]

hey Jody! "Talk to the hand...http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/23.gif cuz the ears don't hear ya!" lol.. Thanks... and I hope I hope it's something! http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/51.gif If it's not, the dino goes in the trash can!

I've talked to your hand plenty of times; it's not a good conversationalist.

I'm staying tuned for this one. Do you see anything under the loupe on UNITED if you hold the coin so that the left side of the U in UNITED is facing the light source?

[tinytinkerbell]

I didn't see anything on the U in UNITED... so I plugged in my wonderful dino and guess what.. yep... it froze my computer and had to reboot.. Hopefully when I send this to Bob he will be able to show what I can't..

[jallengomez]

I didn't see anything on the U in UNITED... so I plugged in my wonderful dino and guess what.. yep... it froze my computer and had to reboot.. Hopefully when I send this to Bob he will be able to show what I can't..

Got my fingers crossed for you.

[jfines69]

I got my fingers and ears crossed... This I believe will be a DD... Also it is not facetious but fecetious as in s%&@... LOL... I guess spell check got it wrong!!!

[engine823]

Good Luck On this one!!!!!! looks really interesting! Good Catch!:LOL_Hair:

[tinytinkerbell]

Thanks Jody, Jim and 823.... :)

[Maineman750]

"Also it is not facetious but fecetious "

Websters must have it wrong too....hmmm

[jfines69]

"Also it is not facetious but fecetious "

Websters must have it wrong too....hmmm
Good thing I don't work for webster... LOL!!!

[lineop3]

arrrgggghhhh! don't tell me that! *fingers in ears* la-la-la-la... I can't hear you....la-la-la-la... lol...
[QUOTE=tinytinkerbell;93575]*kicking the dirt*... yeah, there goes that! ...:LOL_Hair:
She CRACKS ME UP!!! You just gotta love her for her spunk and liveliness.
I saw the split in the first pic by the way...if that's what it is. Sure look like it to me!
Be sure to let us know what Bob finds.

Aisha

[busyeye]

I hope its a hit for ya ttb!