1983p-1dr-001

[newone]

Here we go again Awhile back I bought some bu rolls of 1983 cents off a popular auction website. They were in old wrappers and claimed to be unsearched so I bought them. I came across this one, It has some doubling, but in my opinion doesn't have all the characteristics as the one listed in cherrypickers guide book. E. PLURIBUS UNUM doesn't have the doubling like the one in the book. So what is this one?

[koinmon]

I can't really see any Die Doubling.
George

[Chugly]

Unfortunately, your coin is definitely not the 1983-1DR-001. The doubling on the 1983-1DR-001 is strikingly dramatic and naked eye visible. What you have in your case is what is known as "mechanical doubling (MD.)" This is quite common, very deceiving to people just learning, and also worth no extra value. There is a ton of info on the web that discusses how to tell the difference between the two, including an excellent chapter on the subject in the back of the Cherrypickers guide.

I would also recommend spending some time on coppercoins.com, Variety Vista or the CONECA websites (among others) rather than just relying on the Cherrypickers guide. There are literally hundreds of varieties covered in detail on these websites that the Cherrypickers doesn't list.

For example, in addition to the 1983-1DR-001 that you were looking for, there are also 13 different doubled die obverses known for the 1983-P cents. You say you bought some bu rolls of 1983 cents, be sure to also check the obverses closely for any of the listed DDO's as well.

Good luck in your searches and keep posting questions, that way we all can continue to learn.

[newone]

Thanks for the quick reply and information! I definitely have a lot to learn. One thing I did find one of the rolls unbelievably was a cool error. Think its a double strike, Although I am not positive if that is the correct terminology. It technically is a single strike but it just caught the edge of the planchet. It has the date though and I heard that makes it more desirable. I think I will take pics of it and post it on my avatar. I will definitely thoroughly check all of them. It just gets overwhelming sometimes not being able to identify them even with the info in front of my face !!!

[Maineman750]

Did you compare to 1983p-1dr-002 ? Here is the link as the glare on your pictures makes it impossible for me to say anything for sure.http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=mds

[Shingpumps]

I can't see anything but don't forget 02.

[Chugly]

Thanks guy's. I did forget about the 002. Hopefully, that's actually what he has. I don't mind looking dumb for a good find!

[DoubleYou]

Need better photos, as shingpups points out very well.

[newone]

I took it out of the 2x2 and took some more pictures. I'm using a $20 camera and took my first picture of a coin yesterday, so please bear with me I noticed the first column on the left has something unusual, it appears to be twisted or warped. Hope these pics are better, I appreciate all the replies thanks!

[newone]

2 more pics

[Maineman750]

I now think it's either MD or a trick of the lighting that is causing the doubling.Remember, you can always save this coin for when you get better at taking pictures or just get a better education on coins.Only costs a penny

[copperlover]

I see some MD on this coin. The separation and notching are not prominent as shown on the 02 example. Maybe the next 83 will be the one.Thanks for sharing.

Lucien