98 Canadian

[Roller]

It's tough to find errors on Canada cents so I thought I'd post this. The entire device is involved. I think it's deterioration. Do you agree?

[lara4228]

Not too sure what to say. While the obvious might be to say MD but with Canadian coins our varieties run a little different than American attributions.

What denomination is that? One cent I am presuming?

On coinsandcanada.com they consider 'filling' an error/variety, and this kind of resembles that a bit.

I'd wait and see what others say.

[coinman2009]

I think i've seen something referring to this before, I believe it's something to do with the plating:O Does look like MD!

[RWBILLER]

Because it covets all the obverse and the fields/portrait show the same texture - I think it's a planchet error.
Roger

[lara4228]

OK guys, after reviewing the pic again, I am 90% positive it is called "filling"

Here is the link and here is a picture to verify it. In Canada this is considered an "error"

http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-errors-varieties.php

Lara

[DoubleYou]

It does look like "filling." New term in my vocabulary!

[lara4228]

Yes Wendell, when I first started getting into coins about a year ago, I naturally began with CAD. So after doing research, I became a familiar with our terminology. Then I shifted over to US and quickly discovered that you guys use a different set of rules of application to errors and varieties.

[jallengomez]

I've also noticed that the loonies(sorry Lara :p) use the term "die shift doubling" where we often use the generic MD or strike doubling, and I have to say that I agree with the loonies on this one as it's more precise.

[lara4228]

Yes. But my question, as always been, why are we all not on the same page? I would think that when it comes to making coins, that the process is the same (for the most part), so why does each country have different terms?

[jallengomez]

Yes. But my question, as always been, why are we all not on the same page? I would think that when it comes to making coins, that the process is the same (for the most part), so why does each country have different terms?

Lara,

You need to ask your own country that question, because we are the correct ones.*ducks* ;)

[lara4228]

:LOL_Hair: Well, then if you are the correct ones then I guess that you can tell us why we are the wrong ones?

[jallengomez]

:LOL_Hair: Well, then if you are the correct ones then I guess that you can tell us why we are the wrong ones?

Because you're from Canada of course. :p

[lara4228]

And don't ya forget it! :tinysmile_twink_t:

[jallengomez]

And don't ya forget it! :tinysmile_twink_t:

I won't. Loonie. ;)

[DoubleYou]

The reason why the Canadians are wrong goes way back. Back in the day, like the 60s or so, doubled dies were called "doubled die shifts." This is what they called the 1955 doubled dies. They made no distinguishment between doubled dies and machine doubling, as they didn't know as much back then. Evidently some of the Canadians have decided to call MD die shift because these old references often are actually showing MD, even though they lumped them in with doubled dies.

And I'm 19, so no, I didn't live back then. I merely collect old coin books :tongue:

[Centsational]

Thank's Lara for the information, something new learned again, love this stuff. Great site by the way.

thank's again and HH

Howie

[lara4228]

I do agree. Canadians are not on the front leading the way for errors and varieties. But then again, that's because our Mint is just that good :angel: (but way too many design changes lol)