1970D 1MM-003 (i think) w/qiestions

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  • dbrablec
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 129

    #1

    1970D 1MM-003 (i think) w/qiestions

    here is a coin which i believe to be the 1MM-003 as listed at coppercoins site. there are no matching additional die markers. the questions basically are 1) does anyone else think this is the 1MM-003, and 2) how does one determine if the die state is earlier or later, and therefore account for the missing die markers? i posted the same coin and questions on a different forum and go no responses.
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  • coop
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2754

    #2
    Overlay doesn't match 003. Your coin is further SE of the mint mark location for the 003.
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    • dbrablec
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 129

      #3
      so is this even a RPM?

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      • willbrooks
        Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

        • Jan 2012
        • 9473

        #4
        I will use my very limited knowledge to try to help you a little bit with your question about the markers and die stage. As I understand it: It can be very tricky to determine if a die stage is earlier or later just because a marker is missing. Obviously, as a die gets older, it is more prone to develop scratches, chips, gouges, etc. However, if you don't see a particular marker, it doesn't necessarily mean you are looking at an earlier die stage, because these things can also be polished away and disappear again in later stages. The die stages are determined by experts by looking at signs of deterioration, die flow, and other mysterious things I can only hope to someday understand. I am sorry I can't say more, and hope what I said is generally correct and helpful.
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        • coop
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2754

          #5
          Originally posted by dbrablec
          so is this even a RPM?
          Hard to say without a closer look. A contact mark can change a coin real fast.
          Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.

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          • coppercoins
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Dec 2008
            • 2482

            #6
            No question the coin is an RPM. I can see that easily in the images. I do think this one could be a new one - possibility is there.
            Charles D. Daughtrey, NLG, Author, "Looking Through Lincoln Cents"
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            • dbrablec
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 129

              #7
              is there any interest in having me send it to you - for attribution?

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              • mustbebob
                Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                • Jul 2008
                • 12758

                #8
                If Chuck doesn't have time for it, then I will have a look at it and add it to coppercoins if need be. PM me if you are interested.
                Bob Piazza
                Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                • jcuve
                  Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 15458

                  #9
                  Nice (probably tilted) RPM find and good luck with the listing.



                  Jason Cuvelier


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                  • dbrablec
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 129

                    #10
                    i am interested in sending this in to be attributed. i have tried twice to PM mr. piazza. i cant tell if the PM is being sent or not. please let me know how to go about sending this coin in to you. thanks . dan brablec

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                    • mustbebob
                      Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 12758

                      #11
                      Dan, I have not received any PMs from you. I will try to send one to you, and you can reply to it so we can get this going...OK??
                      Bob Piazza
                      Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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