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standingpride95
09-20-2012, 09:03 AM
Hello all ive been continuing roll searching the same box where i got all my last posts from and im just wondering if this is a 1984 d 1do 005? I cant see the die marker on the reverse unfortunately due to crud. But i do see extra thickness in "in god" and "liberty" and maybe minor notching on liberty?

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1984&die_id=1984d1do005&die_state=mds

lonegunlawyer
09-20-2012, 11:51 AM
Looks like possible additional thickness on the "8" but I do not think there is appreciable added thickness on the "L."

Could be die wear or PMD.

If there is something I am not seeing, please set me true.

coop
09-20-2012, 11:55 AM
Looks like a normal cent to me. The 8 has damage and a few finger prints are showing.

flyhi3
09-20-2012, 11:56 AM
I see very minor class 6, if even that. Probably just damage and wear- sorry.

standingpride95
09-20-2012, 12:00 PM
Thank you all for your comments. I guess the majority rule overall concludes that this is just a normal cent. wasn;t sure since well the doubling coppercoins had listed is so subtle i wouldn't want to take a chance on my guess alone whether it being a double die or not.

coop
09-20-2012, 12:04 PM
I've seen some wider devices on the 1984 LIBERTY that I thought was collectable, but was deemed a normal cent.
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/1984_Phil_Friddle_8.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/1984_Phil_Friddle_NORMAL_-1.jpg
I searched a bunch of the 1984 cents and found many in varying thickness, but common in the ones I found.

lonegunlawyer
09-20-2012, 12:08 PM
Thank you all for your comments. I guess the majority rule overall concludes that this is just a normal cent. wasn;t sure since well the doubling coppercoins had listed is so subtle i wouldn't want to take a chance on my guess alone whether it being a double die or not.

No reason to make a determination by yourself when multiple eyes are available.

standingpride95
09-20-2012, 12:09 PM
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/1984_Phil_Friddle_8.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/1984_Phil_Friddle_NORMAL_-1.jpg
I searched a bunch of the 1984 cents and found many in varying thickness, but common in the ones I found.[/QUOTE]

I see what you mean I guess it would be thicker in certain areas though in the real double dies than the whole letters as youve shown.

jcuve
09-20-2012, 04:48 PM
Why the devices do seem a tad wider, none of it fits the characteristics of Class VI hub doubling. What is seen in IN GOD might be flattening from circulation, though I am not positive.

copperlover
09-22-2012, 09:18 AM
This clearly is die deterioration on IN GOD. The devices are Flattened out towards the rim showing the deterioration.

Lucien