1941 p DDO 001.??? Copper coins matched the one the best.

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  • bowler
    • Jul 2025

    #1

    1941 p DDO 001.??? Copper coins matched the one the best.

    The "in" doubling matches the 1941 p DDO 001. On copper coins. Can some one who really knows. Give me a heads up. Thanks.
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  • simonm
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 6398

    #2
    Definitely not. 1DO-001 shows a nice spread throughout the whole motto. This just looks like slight die deterioration doubling. Keep up the hunt!
    My old coin album.

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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9473

      #3
      Ah, Simon! I remember trading you one of these! I found 2 of the 001s and an 002 in like a half hour. Great night.

      Goddard, I think you are misunderstanding something about doubled dies. Basically, except for subtle changes due to die wear, every example of the same doubled die will show all of the same attributes on each coin it strikes, not just portions of the coin. The second picture below is a picture of the word IN on the a true 1941 1DO-001. Compare it to your picture of IN. Do you really see the same thing in both photos? Also, if you looked at coppercoins, then you would also have seen a photo of the HUGE spread on LIBERTY as shown in the first photo below. If your coin doesn't show this, then you know AUTOMATICALLY that it isn't die #1. This is die deterioration, again.

      Last edited by willbrooks; 12-13-2012, 12:00 PM.
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      • liveandievarieties
        TPG & Market Expert
        • Feb 2011
        • 6049

        #4
        Well said by Will. I'd like to reitterate, the die that strikes a doubled die strikes ALL the coins identically- in cookie-cutter fashion. The doubling will ALWAYS be EXACTLY the same. On something like a '41 DDO #1 you can nearly see it with the naked eye, with a loupe it will scare you! There will be no question, no wondering, no need to match die markers. On a doubled die as strong as this, die markers simply serve to establish die state, not confirm that it's a GIANT doubled die!

        We can all appreciate your enthusiasm, but remember- rare coins are, uh... well- rare, which is why they bring a premium. You will come across die varieties, but they have to look pretty much identical to the photos you're comparing them to.
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        • willbrooks
          Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

          • Jan 2012
          • 9473

          #5
          Here is my thread from earlier this year. Ah, I was as giddy as a... never mind, I won't say it. These were VERY worn and damaged coins, but you can still VERY easily spot this doubled die. Check it out!
          All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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          • mustbebob
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Jul 2008
            • 12758

            #6
            Very well said guys. Short, sweet, and to the point. Thanks!
            Bob Piazza
            Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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