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liveandievarieties
04-24-2013, 01:40 PM
I'll keep this as short and sweet as possible- Some details are ommitted because of a pending lawsuit I am pressing.

Here are the facts:

In mid December I shipped a mostly raw consignment to a well known internet auction company for encapsulation. They received it and package was signed for by an employee. All of the coins in the package were processed with the exception of two coins that were on their own submission sheets to PCGS as raw coins. Both coins were to be certified under the "express" service, a more expensive but faster turn-around.

The coins were lost or misplaced by the auction company. Auction company disputes their existence. The seriousness of the situation is that one of the coins, a 1983 Cent listed as FS-401, CLO-001 has a total population of 1 at PCGS, and it's an AU58. The example I had was brown uncirculated as shown in the pictures below. The other coin was a 1930-S/S Nickel in Gem Uncirculated worth in the range of $500-600.

The significance of the 1983 Counterclash Cent is that it is literally the lynchpin to the PCGS Registry set- a collection cannot be complete without that coin and there are far fewer examples than serious cash-paying collectors. With 25 years experience in coins it is my strong conviction that this coin in uncirculated grade slabbed by PCGS offered in a competetive, auction-style open market sale could easily attract bids in the range of $10,000 to $20,000.

The big coin in question belongs to a non, or rather novice collector whose entire family is inspired by this rare coin. They work on searching for varieties and assembling sets together. My motivation is to do right by the owner of the coin and not allow a bad situation to leave a black mark on this hobby we all love.

Below is the coin, I grade it as an MS63 Brown with natural blue toning from being saved in a tissue for over a decade since being found in circulation.

Please, I encourage you to post this, images or links to this thread in any other coin forums you frequent. Any other ideas are greatly appreciated.

The coin in question is marked by a small scratch between the A of AMERICA and the designer's initials FG. There is also a small area of discoloration behind Lincoln's head.

Here are links to the images of the nickel, I don't know how to enlarge them and retain detail, any help would be appreciateed!





http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461193_th.jpg (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461193_th.jpg)
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461204_th.jpg (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461204_th.jpg)
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461221_th.jpg (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461221_th.jpg)
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461232_th.jpg (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/5/9/1/9/2/webimg/583461232_th.jpg)

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k532/liveandievarieties/r_zps27d46cb3.jpg (http://s1114.photobucket.com/user/liveandievarieties/media/r_zps27d46cb3.jpg.html)

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cimperialis
04-24-2013, 02:35 PM
Wow, Chris, please keep us updated. There's nothing like having something stolen from you, and being so aware of it happening before your eyes. I've had this happen to me at a value of less than 1% or your coins, and it kept me up at night. I can't imagine what you're going through. I truly hope justice prevails here.

Maineman750
04-24-2013, 02:45 PM
Wow, that sucks,to say the least.

LKLive13
04-24-2013, 02:51 PM
Man thats horrible! I hope they get whats coming to them... there is nothing lower than a thief! Good luck with the recovery!

Chugly
04-24-2013, 02:52 PM
What a nightmare! I wish you all the luck in the world on this, Chris. Of course it would have to be THAT coin (the '83). I think you are very smart to go on the offensive and get those pictures out in public. Someone, somewhere will eventually find it or, at the very least the thief who stole it will never be able to post it in a set or sell it for fear of being discovered.

coincollectingenterprises
04-24-2013, 04:09 PM
If it doesn't create any issues on your end or others from posting as an individual with ones personal information potentially out there based on ones own privacy settings on social media sites, social media is a very powerful tool. Assuming the company in question has accounts on social media such as Facebook and Twitter, posting of your issue on their facebook wall, for example, or hashtagging them via twitter, with as much detail as your opening post could bring about the public awareness and attention to the matter you are looking to create. There may be unintended consequences from doing so. However, if public attention is what you want, social media is the way to go.

jcuve
04-24-2013, 04:26 PM
What a nightmare.

GrumpyEd
04-24-2013, 04:34 PM
Yes a nightmare!
The places like that often video opening packages. If you put pressure on them they may find the video to see what happened.

copperlover
04-24-2013, 05:43 PM
I am hoping and praying that this nightmare will end real soon. It is hard to imagine something like this occurring.

Lucien

flyhi3
04-24-2013, 07:22 PM
Wow Chris... that is horrible! I hope everything gets fixed, and the thief gets caught.
-Alex

papascoins
04-24-2013, 09:20 PM
Wow. Sorry Chris. Hope everything works out for you. And I hope the anxiety you are feeling now will soon be extinguished by good news!

busyeye
04-24-2013, 09:24 PM
This is just awful. Hope there's a positive outcome soon for you Chris.

pennies4pennies
04-24-2013, 09:50 PM
Best of luck Chris. I'll keep my eyes open. I'm sure you have been checking ebay. I am going to some coins shows in a few weeks. I'll check there. I don't think it would show up here in PA, but you never know. I'll pass this on to other dealers I know. Can you say what town or state that they disappeared in. It could help. I would also contact Numismatic Crime Information Center.

jfines69
04-25-2013, 05:23 AM
With the pics you have it would be easy to i.d. your coin should it show up... Better than a mug shot... No two coins are alike, thank goodness... Good luck!!!

strwrght53
04-26-2013, 06:49 AM
I am so sorry for you having to put up with this underhanded act Chris.Is the auction house taking any responsibility at all?

Jacob
04-26-2013, 07:16 AM
Im sorry to hear that dilemma bud. Hope it works out for ya and Ill keep an eye out.

BadThad
04-27-2013, 12:29 AM
Man oh man...yuck. Sorry about your bad luck. I hate dealing with crap.

Gunnovice09
11-22-2013, 09:22 PM
Just saw this thread for the first time, any updates?

liveandievarieties
11-23-2013, 09:39 AM
If there were, you'd have read them in this thread.