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copperlover
08-23-2013, 05:25 PM
Before I post a pic, has anyone seen doubling on VDB for the 2013P or D cent? I have had great difficulty getting a good pic of the VDB initials on the obverse and decided to ask the question first before adding a pic. Could doubling appear only on the initials and not on other characters?

This is my attempt to get an image:

Lucien

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Maineman750
08-23-2013, 06:10 PM
I would think that might be a form of MD as it is incuse...but that's just a guess on my part

tea-party
08-23-2013, 06:28 PM
I see that all the time it very common!! Im tired of seeing it because Im search a solid brick of 2013s..


John

georoxx
08-23-2013, 06:33 PM
I see that all the time it very common!! Im tired of seeing it because Im search a solid brick of 2013s..


John

I think I'd rather take a brick to the head. :)

-George

willbrooks
08-23-2013, 06:34 PM
I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.

Magers
08-23-2013, 07:55 PM
I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.

Pm me I'll send you a couple hundred 2013-D.... I'm tired of looking at them.

coppy
08-23-2013, 08:13 PM
I've seen a few of these also.
It may be weak MD of the "Slide-Doubling" type.

copperlover, is the obverse struck slightly off-center or is it perfectly centered?

admrose
08-23-2013, 08:16 PM
I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.

Have you left the house this year? You're 20 miles from me and I find these things on the ground.

copperlover
08-23-2013, 08:29 PM
I've seen a few of these also.
It may be weak MD of the "Slide-Doubling" type.

copperlover, is the obverse struck slightly off-center or is it perfectly centered?


As far as I can see it is perfectly centered.

Lucien

Arjohn
08-23-2013, 08:40 PM
I have noticed that the VDB stands out on many of the 13D's I have searched... Cariken't say I thought it was doubling but more of a "deeper" strike

hasfam
08-23-2013, 10:05 PM
I also see this frequently and it's almost always accompanied by heavy die flow lines in the immediate area. This area, especially with the shield cents, seems to be quite vulnerable to die cracks, chips, and general die wear and deterioration.
I would even question the feasibility of hub doubling occurring on the obverse initials of a shield cent in an isolated manner.

GrumpyEd
08-23-2013, 10:06 PM
VDB is incuse so MD makes another set of VDB without really smashing the first set.
(this one in the OP looks like it slid)

People sell 1969 with it on ebay and get crazy money for them.

I see many strike doubled VDB on shield cents, especially 2013 :)

coop
08-23-2013, 10:17 PM
When you look close at the OP's VDB you can see striations on the VDB. Sure sign of metal movement during the strike. (AKA MD)

copperlover
08-24-2013, 12:52 PM
I think most of the answers were very helpful and most collectors do not even examine this area. Thanks to all.

Lucien