Has anyone seen doubling on 2013 cent VDB?

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  • copperlover
    • Jul 2025

    #1

    Has anyone seen doubling on 2013 cent VDB?

    Before I post a pic, has anyone seen doubling on VDB for the 2013P or D cent? I have had great difficulty getting a good pic of the VDB initials on the obverse and decided to ask the question first before adding a pic. Could doubling appear only on the initials and not on other characters?

    This is my attempt to get an image:

    Lucien

    Still4539 (800x600).jpg
  • Maineman750
    Administrator

    • Apr 2011
    • 12069

    #2
    I would think that might be a form of MD as it is incuse...but that's just a guess on my part
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    • tea-party
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1091

      #3
      I see that all the time it very common!! Im tired of seeing it because Im search a solid brick of 2013s..


      John
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      • georoxx

        #4
        Originally posted by tea-party
        I see that all the time it very common!! Im tired of seeing it because Im search a solid brick of 2013s..


        John
        I think I'd rather take a brick to the head.

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        • willbrooks
          Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

          • Jan 2012
          • 9473

          #5
          I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.
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          • Magers
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 889

            #6
            Originally posted by willbrooks
            I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.
            Pm me I'll send you a couple hundred 2013-D.... I'm tired of looking at them.

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            • coppy

              #7
              I've seen a few of these also.
              It may be weak MD of the "Slide-Doubling" type.

              copperlover, is the obverse struck slightly off-center or is it perfectly centered?

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              • admrose
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1077

                #8
                Originally posted by willbrooks
                I'm sure that is a tough thing to capture in a photo. Really hard to tell for sure, but it resembles stressed or split plating to me. Heck, I still haven't even seen a 2013 cent yet.
                Have you left the house this year? You're 20 miles from me and I find these things on the ground.
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                • copperlover

                  #9
                  Originally posted by coppy
                  I've seen a few of these also.
                  It may be weak MD of the "Slide-Doubling" type.

                  copperlover, is the obverse struck slightly off-center or is it perfectly centered?

                  As far as I can see it is perfectly centered.

                  Lucien

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                  • Arjohn
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 828

                    #10
                    I have noticed that the VDB stands out on many of the 13D's I have searched... Cariken't say I thought it was doubling but more of a "deeper" strike
                    ArJohn

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                    • hasfam
                      Paid Member

                      • May 2009
                      • 6291

                      #11
                      I also see this frequently and it's almost always accompanied by heavy die flow lines in the immediate area. This area, especially with the shield cents, seems to be quite vulnerable to die cracks, chips, and general die wear and deterioration.
                      I would even question the feasibility of hub doubling occurring on the obverse initials of a shield cent in an isolated manner.
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                      • GrumpyEd
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7229

                        #12
                        VDB is incuse so MD makes another set of VDB without really smashing the first set.
                        (this one in the OP looks like it slid)

                        People sell 1969 with it on ebay and get crazy money for them.

                        I see many strike doubled VDB on shield cents, especially 2013
                        Last edited by GrumpyEd; 08-23-2013, 10:25 PM.

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                        • coop
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2754

                          #13
                          When you look close at the OP's VDB you can see striations on the VDB. Sure sign of metal movement during the strike. (AKA MD)
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                          • copperlover

                            #14
                            I think most of the answers were very helpful and most collectors do not even examine this area. Thanks to all.

                            Lucien

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