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Wutindahell?!?
05-28-2015, 11:57 AM
Hello, first time posting so please be gentle...:D

Okay, so I've been trying hard not to get too excited, but I recently came across this 1995-D and it looks to me like it not only has doubling but quadrupling...? I'm sure this isn't anything special, but at least it was still a rush while it lasted! I'd be more than happy if it does have doubling and is the real deal, but most likely just wishful thinking :(

http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100620&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100617&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100619&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100618&stc=1

Roller
05-28-2015, 12:15 PM
:sign10: Try not to drink too much coffee before taking pictures freehand. Or, don't take pictures with the subject on a vibrator.

stoneman227
05-28-2015, 12:22 PM
Simple answer , yes , but I'm not sure I have seen it in the Lincoln series. I have a 1893 barber quarter that is quadrupled. I think we need better pics and also a pic of the reverse of the coin.

jfines69
05-28-2015, 02:50 PM
I thought my egg nogg bottle bottom glasses were acting up again :LOL_Hair: If possible better pics would be a big help... Welcome to the LCF... It would be cool to be a quad double!!!

enamel7
05-28-2015, 03:30 PM
Appears to be plating issues to me. Welcome aboard!

Roller
05-28-2015, 05:08 PM
Have you all taken note of the handle on this post?

Wutindahell?!?
05-28-2015, 05:22 PM
Well actually I used my scanner for the pics, but perhaps there was a small earthquake at the same time it was scanning that I wasn't aware of...? Hopefully these are a little better. Thank you all and sorry about any headaches caused from trying to focus your eyes on those previous pics!
http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100632&stc=1 http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100633&stc=1 http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100635&stc=1 http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100634&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100639&stc=1

jcuve
05-28-2015, 08:21 PM
It sure seems your scanner is causing some sort of reverberation with the coin when scanning. Yes a quadrupled die is possible (as noted), but what you are showing looks like the scanner image is repeating itself. Scanners are tough with picking up detail on varieties.

And welcome to the forum!

GrumpyEd
05-28-2015, 10:14 PM
There are 2 fibers on the flip on the second 9, especially on the one on the tail the scan quadrupled it too so it must be an artifact of the scan.

It also looks like there is something from the plating making it look doubled on the date toward the rim.

jfines69
05-29-2015, 04:17 AM
Have you all taken note of the handle on this post?
Yes... Kind of strange but I do not think the LCF has a handle rule???

trails
05-29-2015, 05:02 AM
When I first looked at the images I thought "photo-shop". But it may also be the scanner as well. Either way, it is not a correct image.

BJ Neff

Wutindahell?!?
05-29-2015, 09:03 AM
Okay, so apparently I'm an idiot. Just realized I uploaded the same $@#% pics! :nerd:


http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100664&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100662&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100663&stc=1http://www.lincolncentforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100665&stc=1

stoneman227
05-29-2015, 11:25 AM
It looks like you have plating issues. It is bubbling up around some of the devices giving you the illusion of extra width and doubling. Also the light is reflecting off the sides of the devices lending to a doubling look.

duece2seven
05-29-2015, 01:07 PM
Don't know if the coin carries any premium but your screename is priceless! :bigsmile: Welcome to LCF!

enamel7
05-29-2015, 01:23 PM
Those are definitely bubbles!

jcuve
05-29-2015, 02:55 PM
I agree, some sort of plating issue. The copper plating on the zinc core is thin. It could be that contaminants on the core gassed during the heat and pressure from the striking process as well as split along the demarcated edge of the die. Such ruptures are subject to the chemically reactive nature of the exposed zinc core which will rapidly oxidize causing more bubbling and splitting. This is especially true around the mintmark and the 5 digit which often goes through the greatest expansion when struck and the splits gain the most separation.

jfines69
05-29-2015, 03:10 PM
Okay, so apparently I'm an idiot. Just realized I uploaded the same $@#% pics! :nerd:
:sign10: Sounds like me :LOL_Hair:

jfines69
05-29-2015, 03:11 PM
I agree with the plating issues and there also appears to be MD!!!

willbrooks
05-29-2015, 04:05 PM
You have zinc rot. This thread is closed. You can PM me if you have any questions about why. It isn't hard to look at your own posts. Please do so in the future to avoid this confusion.