1944S Roller marks?

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  • Roller
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 6975

    #1

    1944S Roller marks?

    I don't have any other clue except possibly roller marks. Anyone in the know?
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  • duece2seven
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1567

    #2
    That's just weird? Doesn't look like PMD. Lines appear to be under the normal devices. This should be interesting. Way over my head for sure. Foreign planchet maybe? Good luck!

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    • jallengomez
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4447

      #3
      Feeder-finger damage to the dies. In those days, feeder-finger damage showed up in a north-south direction as opposed to the NE-SE direction that we see them on modern coins.
      “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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      • jfines69
        Paid Member

        • Jun 2010
        • 28618

        #4
        They do look like feeder finger damage!!!
        Jim
        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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        • mrmike916
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1381

          #5
          Thanks for clarification, this was a question I have had for a while. I always though they were lathe lines.

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          • mustbebob
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Jul 2008
            • 12758

            #6
            I agree with Jody. It does look like feeder finger damage. It is the strongest I have seen on a wheat cent. Very nice example.
            Bob Piazza
            Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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            • willbrooks
              Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

              • Jan 2012
              • 9473

              #7
              George, would you grant permission to add your photo to our glossary? We do not have a wheat cent example for this yet.
              All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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              • Roller
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 6975

                #8
                Originally posted by willbrooks
                George, would you grant permission to add your photo to our glossary? We do not have a wheat cent example for this yet.
                By all means Will.

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                • willbrooks
                  Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                  • Jan 2012
                  • 9473

                  #9
                  Ok, I had to edit the content of this entry as well. Here is the edited entry. Thank you Jody and George! The glossary is a living lexicon. Jody, or anyone else in the know; do we know what year the feeder finger angle to the die changed from N-S to NW-SE? Might be tough to pinpoint.

                  Feeder Finger Damage: Damage in the form of scrapes to the anvil die which occur when the feeder finger inadvertently rubs across it. On memorial cents, these die scrapes always show on the coin in a NW to SE direction and until the mid 90s, only on the reverse of coins, as the reverse die had always been the anvil die up until that point. Inverse die installation began in the mid 90s, but thus far there are no known examples of obverse feeder finger damage on Lincoln cents. On older cents, such as this 1944S wheat pictured below, these feeder finger scrapes exhibit in a N-S direction. I am currently unaware of when the angle of the feeder finger to the die was altered. That coin and photo are courtesy of forum member Roller.
                  All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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