1941 S mintmark and rpm question

[duece2seven]

Currently going thru a few rolls of 41-S. Just curious if the possibility of a small over large S RPM has ever been discussed? I'm also curious if it's possible that a few coins might have been punched using the MMS-003 styled MM from 1928? I wish I knew how to do overlays. I'd like to see what small S Mm from 1941 would look like atop the Large S from 1928. No biggie, just an interesting subject I thought.

[kloccwork419]

I'm goin to say no on the large S. It was used only on 1928. The small was used from 1917 til 1941

[stoneman227]

Actually there were two S mintmark styles for 1941 , the small and the trumpet tail. The large one has not been used since 1928.
http://varietyvista.com/San%20Francisco%20Mintmark%20Styles.htm

John

[duece2seven]

Thanks for the info guys. I should have said that I'm aware of the different MM styles and was only curious about the likelihood of the 28 being used by mistake or something. My bad!
I'm just dreaming up possible combinations - small 41 over large 28, or small 41 over trumpet tail 41, etc. - that would explain the inordinate height and width of a few of the ones I have. A deeply
punched 41 S is normal but I have a couple that are off the charts deep. Perhaps soon I can pull off some of Ray's 3-D photo stuff to illustrate my point!

[kloccwork419]

Post a pic...

[BarryG]

I have read that the large MM mintage is less than 10% for 1941S. Can anyone confirm this with a reference or by experience?

[BarryG]

Still curious if anyone has any info on my last question? Thanks.

[mustbebob]

Based on my experiences over the past 40 something years, the numbers of between 7-10% Large MM seem accurate. I am not aware of any data saying specifically how many of each were minted, but there seem to be many personal searches that corroborate these percentages.

[Maineman750]

I have read that the large MM mintage is less than 10% for 1941S. Can anyone confirm this with a reference or by experience?


I've never heard of a large MM for 1941-S....have a link ?

[onecent1909]

I have read that the large MM mintage is less than 10% for 1941 S. Can anyone confirm this with a reference or by experience?

for easy of terms... there is no "large S" mint mark styles for 1941
there are only 2 mint mark style. the small mint mark and the trumpet tail mint mark
See variety vistas mint mark style link that John/Stoneman227 posted above

in some reference books ( Walter Breen's encyclopedia and Lincoln cent mint mark varieties) the trumpet tail is called a Large mint mark.
The 1928 large mint mark looks different than the 1941 "large S"/trumpet tail and as such this style should be called the trumpet tail
the trumpet tail was used from 1941 to 1952 except for the years of 1943 and 1944

The large S was only used in 1928 and then that mm punch was discontinued.

Brian Allen and John Wexler's book "The Complete Price Guide And Reference To Lincoln Cent Mint Mark Varieties"
( LOOOOOOOOONG Title) they state that they found that the ratio of "LARGE" to small is 1 to 9... they also state this may be differ as they only examined 147 pieces

I have found many circulated trumpet tail 1941 S cents and quite a few uncirculated examples,
but never looked to make a ratio of searched coin list.
A neat mini set for a Lincoln cent collector is put together a S and D mint mark set.

" Just curious if the possibility of a small over large S RPM has ever been discussed?"

It is a "possibility" of a trumpet tail over a small or a small over a trumpet tail RPM...
but as there are not many RPMs that show enough of the MM to see the difference so you may never know
and some RPMs that are currently listed as a 1941 S RPM may in fact be a TT/small or a small/TT type

[BarryG]

Thanks all for your posts. Charles Daughtrey's book "Looking Through Lincoln Cents" also mentions a ratio of large to small as 1 to 12. To bad prices don't match the scarcity yet.