Possible DDO?

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  • akovia
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 72

    #1

    Possible DDO?

    Just wasn't sure about this one. Looks very close to 1984P-1DO-006 & 1984P-1DO-010 with the extra thickness in the 8 & 4, but the die markers are not right. Seems closer to 006 with the die deterioration around the upper rim.
    Maybe an early stage, or not at all?

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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12758

    #2
    This is definitely a DDO. Afraid I can't do much more without any markers.
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • akovia
      Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 72

      #3
      Originally posted by mustbebob
      This is definitely a DDO. Afraid I can't do much more without any markers.
      I'll investigate some more and try to see if I can match up a single marker, as well as better pics if I can.
      Thanks!

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      • Chugly
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2358

        #4
        I definitely agree that its a DDO! Nice find! Hopefully, you can match up some markers, but its a scarce find regardless. Way to go!

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        • enamel7
          Paid Member

          • Apr 2009
          • 4042

          #5
          Definitely a doubled die!

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          • WxMan
            Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 654

            #6
            Real nice find. Congrats.
            MyPCGSSets

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            • akovia
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 72

              #7
              Well I think I found a marker from 1984P-1DO-004 right below Lincoln on the RE, and this one displays the same die deterioration along the top of the OB.
              Just not sure since all the other markers, both OB and RE are not there.

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              • mustbebob
                Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                • Jul 2008
                • 12758

                #8
                It does indeed look like the marker as shown on coppercoins. I would say you have a positive attribution. Well done!
                Bob Piazza
                Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                • onecent1909
                  Wrong Design Die Expert
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 2597

                  #9
                  This could be an earlier die state. it struck the coin before those markers happened on the die.
                  Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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                  • akovia
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 72

                    #10
                    WOOT!
                    Thanks for the encouragement. That was a lot of fun.

                    Before I catalog it, is there an index somewhere to cross this with the Wexler numbers?
                    Since coppercoins doesn't seem to be actively maintained anymore, I thought it would be prudent to use Wexler's where possible. No big deal if not.

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                    • Historyhound
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 432

                      #11
                      One other area to check, is the doubling on the bottom of the bust, which is not shown on CC. Here's a link to one I found that shows that doubling. I do see the "dot" below the S in TRUST in your pic.

                      Found this recently, just been to busy lately, to take the time to post anything. Attributed this by the "dot" below the S in TRUST. Wasn't sure, because of the bust doubling, which isn't seen on Coppercoins. But it is in the CONECA description for 005.
                      Last edited by Historyhound; 05-31-2016, 06:54 PM.

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                      • akovia
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 72

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Historyhound
                        One other area to check, is the doubling on the bottom of the bust, which is not shown on CC. Here's a link to one I found that shows that doubling. I do see the "dot" below the S in TRUST in your pic.

                        http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...038#post291038
                        I think I see it on the bust if you mean where it's at it's thinnest where it meets the field. Not sure I would have seen that otherwise.
                        Now I also see the dot below the S as well. I honestly thought it was dirt before and discounted it. Looking at a different angle did the trick.

                        Thanks!

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                        • jfines69
                          Paid Member

                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28618

                          #13
                          Nice find... Attribution to Copper Coins (CC) 004 is spot on... I noticed that there is a die scratch/abrasion just to the SW of the 9s upper loop on your coin that appears to match perfectly with CCs 004... Remember that not all die marker will be noted... Just ones that are the easiest to identify... Depending on die state some listed markers change or disappear all together!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • jallengomez
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4447

                            #14
                            Another good reference for variety listings is:

                            “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                            • WaterSport
                              Paid Member

                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3210

                              #15
                              Nice Going!

                              WS

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