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duece2seven
08-04-2016, 11:47 AM
Thought I'd never find one of these. I'll take it even though it's a prime example of what NOT to do when it comes to coin restoration and storage! Looks like Abe took a staple to the dome and it's been harshly cleaned as well. For those of you newbies contemplating cutips for restoration work: it is not necessary to apply your full body weight to the coin to achieve the desired effect. Just look at the streaking and cutip remnants around the date. This was a reasonably cool, partially woody coin before someone fired up the Adderrall and went at it like a beast! And if there was ever an example of why you should flatten your staples after placing your coins in 2X2's, this is it. I can just picture someone spinning this coin in it's flip on top of another flip with raised staple corners. All coins deserve love people! OK, rant over. I still dig the rpm alot!

Chugly
08-04-2016, 12:17 PM
Excellent find! I've been looking for this RPM forever. It is not an easy one to find at all! Too bad about the poor handling, but we've all seen much worse.

stoneman227
08-04-2016, 12:57 PM
Excellent find !

John

willbrooks
08-04-2016, 02:22 PM
Yeah, buddy. That's a way cool rpm!

jfines69
08-04-2016, 02:27 PM
Excellent find Tracy... Your pics are outstanding... I do not see the crack on your west stalk... It is really lite on VV Stage B pics... Also looking at yours compared to VVs both Stage A and B http://varietyvista.com/02a%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%201/1936SRPM001.htm I think the lines at the bottom of the bust are Lathe Lines... Yours may actually be a Stage A and the ones on VV are B and C??? May be worth sending to the folks there to update their files??? Unless of course there is a crack on the stalk and I am just wishful thinking also known as Over Anal Eyesing :LOL_Hair:

willbrooks
08-04-2016, 03:24 PM
I think the lines at the bottom of the bust are Lathe Lines...

Definitely not lathe lines. They do, however, resemble roller lines. That's probably what you meant.

Roller Lines: These are very thin parallel striations, often seen on both the obverse and reverse going in the same direction. Though sometimes blamed on improper alloy mixture (http://www.lincolncentforum.com/terminology-list-i/#Improper%20Alloy%20Mixture), these thinner, more even lines are more likely from dirty or damaged rollers from the rolling mill when it was reducing the planchet stock to the correct thickness for coin production. More commonly seen in the late 70s and early 80s. Please see this article by Mike Diamond for more information on striped coinage. http://www.coinworld.com/insights/different-causes-of-stripes-on-coins-are-not-fully-understood.html Photo courtesy of jmangham.
http://www.lincolncentforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/roller-lines-150x150.jpg (http://www.lincolncentforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/roller-lines.jpg)

eaxtellcoin
08-04-2016, 06:04 PM
I found a decent stage "A" at the last show here. It's not a stage "A", the curve of the raised Mintmark would show between the primary if it was. This one is weak except for the tail and curve. Probably stage "B or C" but without it in hand - it's a guess.

Scratch this post. I've been dealing with Family issues for too long. I was thinking this was 37-S #1. My bad!

joel
08-04-2016, 07:12 PM
Very cool addition to your collection, Tracy!!! Your pics are first class also!!

jfines69
08-05-2016, 04:13 AM
Definitely not lathe lines. They do, however, resemble roller lines. That's probably what you meant.

Roller Lines: These are very thin parallel striations, often seen on both the obverse and reverse going in the same direction. Though sometimes blamed on improper alloy mixture (http://www.lincolncentforum.com/terminology-list-i/#Improper%20Alloy%20Mixture), these thinner, more even lines are more likely from dirty or damaged rollers from the rolling mill when it was reducing the planchet stock to the correct thickness for coin production. More commonly seen in the late 70s and early 80s. Please see this article by Mike Diamond for more information on striped coinage. http://www.coinworld.com/insights/different-causes-of-stripes-on-coins-are-not-fully-understood.html Photo courtesy of jmangham.
http://www.lincolncentforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/roller-lines-150x150.jpg (http://www.lincolncentforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/roller-lines.jpg)
Will,
I do see what appears to be roller lines or a woody on the bust area in the 3rd pic... What I was referring to are the lines closest to the rim in the 3rd pic... There are at least four fairly evenly positioned concentric lines that may be lathe lines... In the full obv pic there are also some lines near the north rim from the I over to the R... There does not appear to be any abrasions or die gouges that show up on VVs pics... Of course then maybe I am seeing things again :LOL_Hair:

willbrooks
08-05-2016, 12:27 PM
Oh, I see what you are referencing now, Jim. I'm not sure about those. They might be as you say, but they kinda look more like scratches to me.

jfines69
08-05-2016, 02:32 PM
Well at least I know I'm not seeing things again :LOL_Hair: The closest one to the rim could be from die abrasion of some sort I can not remember what Jason Cuv. called it but coupled with the others and that they are fairly evenly spaced I thought they may be lathe lines... One of those that would have to be seen in hand by one of you pros... Thanks Will!!!

grnwavdav
08-05-2016, 11:36 PM
That is a really cool find. And like John said, we have all have seen coins in worse condition. Congrats!

mrmike916
08-06-2016, 01:21 PM
Great eye Tracy! This one is an empty spot in my collection still. Overall I think it's a great example. I know you know it could be much worse!!