I think I finally found a 2017-P 1¢ WDDO-006. Let me know what you think.

[makecents]

I thought I had this one one other time but was wrong. See what you guys think. I believe it's a later die state than what is on Wexler's site because of the more advanced crack on the forehead. http://doubleddie.com/2318537.html

Thanks for any input, Jon.

[VAB2013]

Jon, I think that's it! Liberty looks good and the marker die gouge (dot) does too. I'm still puzzled about the die crack on the forehead though and even though your photos are very good, I'm still look at that. A pre-die crack depression is something I am not familiar with and it would be interesting to know more about that.

[makecents]

Thanks Viv!! Yeah, we went through this about the pre die crack the last time I thought I had a 006 but it is in the right location and looks to be a later die state possibly.

[joel]

Nice comeback on this one Jon!!

[Petespockets55]

My hats off to you Jon.
Don't think I would spot that one. There's not much difference between the left and right side on the Y.

[makecents]

Nice comeback on this one Jon!!
Thanks Larry!! The last time it ended up being a 002.

[makecents]

My hats off to you Jon.
Don't think I would spot that one. There's not much difference between the left and right side on the Y.
Thanks Cliff!! I don't think I noticed the slight doubling at first, the forehead caught my eye and then I looked for the other marker.

[jfines69]

Nice find... I am not sure if it is Wexlers 006 or not but since the others believe it is then I will go with 006... These 2017P DDOs are really giving me a tough time... I must be old :LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

Nice find... I am not sure if it is Wexlers 006 or not but since the others believe it is then I will go with 006... These 2017P DDOs are really giving me a tough time... I must be old :LOL_Hair:

Any other pics help Jim? I was trying find other unlisted markers in Wexlers pics for comparison but could not see any. Do you not think the listed markers line up?

[jfines69]

To me the pre-crack on Wexlers 006 is straight and yours looks arced... Also the top horizontal bar on the E in LIBERTY looks off to me??? Like I said tho these 17Ps are really giving me a tough time... Maybe if I find a few it will finally sink in on what I am missing :LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

To me the pre-crack on Wexlers 006 is straight and yours looks arced... Also the top horizontal bar on the E in LIBERTY looks off to me??? Like I said tho these 17Ps are really giving me a tough time... Maybe if I find a few it will finally sink in on what I am missing :LOL_Hair:
I'll pull it out and get some better pics, these were not the best. You can check out and see what you think. The last 006 I thought I had you attributed as a 002.

[VAB2013]

To me the pre-crack on Wexlers 006 is straight and yours looks arced... Also the top horizontal bar on the E in LIBERTY looks off to me??? Like I said tho these 17Ps are really giving me a tough time... Maybe if I find a few it will finally sink in on what I am missing :LOL_Hair:

Jim that pre die crack depression looks odd to me too but I thought maybe it's just different angles of the pics and lighting. I tried to research pre die crack depression and the only thing that came up was other denomination of coins and no pictures of what was described. Don't recall any "pre die crack depressions" on any other Lincoln cent attributions I have seen and to me it looks like PSD.

[makecents]

Man, I really am bad at the shiney pics. The "E" and the "R" in Wexlers pic looks to have taken a hit too, if that makes any difference. See what ya think.

[VAB2013]

Man, I really am bad at the shiney pics. The "E" and the "R" in Wexlers pic looks to have taken a hit too, if that makes any difference. See what ya think.

Jon, it's not your pics it's the shiny Shield's fault LOL! You are doing just fine! Yes, the E and R did take a hit like you said. I think your die dot marker is spot on. It's hard to tell about the die crack because we are looking at two different pic sizes and die states. We'll see what Jim and the others think.

[jfines69]

The die dot does look spot on just a little larger... The E and R on Wexlers did take a hit and that most likely is throwing me off there... The pre-crack depression on Wexlers sample looks incuse on the coin which relates to in relief on the die... If it were a pre-crack or a chip I would expect the die to be incuse and in relief on the coin??? I do not know enough about the pre-crack depression theory to make things click... On a pre-crack depression does the shape change as it progresses into a crack??? Your images are good with the 2nd set being better... Shiney coins are not easy to get pics of unless you are Ray Parkhurst or Jason Cuv. :LOL_Hair: Since all of you believe your coin to be 006 then that is what I am going with... I have nothing to say 100% it is not 006 and that is no problem by me... Remember I'm old :LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

The die dot does look spot on just a little larger... The E and R on Wexlers did take a hit and that most likely is throwing me off there... The pre-crack depression on Wexlers sample looks incuse on the coin which relates to in relief on the die... If it were a pre-crack or a chip I would expect the die to be incuse and in relief on the coin??? I do not know enough about the pre-crack depression theory to make things click... On a pre-crack depression does the shape change as it progresses into a crack??? Your images are good with the 2nd set being better... Shiney coins are not easy to get pics of unless you are Ray Parkhurst or Jason Cuv. :LOL_Hair: Since all of you believe your coin to be 006 then that is what I am going with... I have nothing to say 100% it is not 006 and that is no problem by me... Remember I'm old :LOL_Hair:
You have done nothing but help me every step of the way Jim and I appreciate it! Let me know if you ever want me to send you anything to look at, even if it's for your peace of mind. And by the way, I would put your pics up there with anyone's! I was not sure but thought where this may be a later die state with the crack on the forehead, that also might be why the dot marker looks to be larger. Just a thought.

[jfines69]

You have done nothing but help me every step of the way Jim and I appreciate it! Let me know if you ever want me to send you anything to look at, even if it's for your peace of mind. And by the way, I would put your pics up there with anyone's! I was not sure but thought where this may be a later die state with the crack on the forehead, that also might be why the dot marker looks to be larger. Just a thought.
Definite on the later die state... Glad I could help... Always remember - I am not one of the pros and I always over anal eyes :LOL_Hair: Thanks Jon!!!
Jim

[jfines69]

Jon has let me take an in hand look at this coin and get some pics... Thank you Jon... I really appreciate it... Now for what I have found - This coin does not appear to be WDDO-006 http://doubleddie.com/2318537.html The fore head crack on Jons coin is much farther east than the sample on Wexlers... Also the die dot between the D and W on Jons is to far north... I also have done a little research on the top horizontal bar of the E in LIBERTY and I believe it is a part of the DDO... I have looked back thru Wexlers listings of the shield DDOs and have found several that exhibit the same distortion and appear to be highly similar in the direction of the doubling - Here is the list -

http://doubleddie.com/845597.html


2017-P 1¢ WDDO-007


2016 1¢ WDDO-006


2015 1¢ WDDO-002 (Lesser extent)


2015 1¢ WDDO-005


2015 1¢ WDDO-008


2015 1¢ WDDO-018


2015 1¢ WDDO-022


2015 1¢ WDDO-026


2015 1¢ WDDO-027 (Lesser extent)


2013 1¢ WDDO-009


2012 1¢ WDDO-004


2012 1¢ WDDO-006

I did look thru the entire 2017P listed DDOs on Wexlers but was unable to find a match for Jons coin... I think Jons is a new DDO???

[makecents]

Nice work Jim!! Once again, fantastic pics!! I can't thank you enough for looking at this and the other coin too! So you think this one is worth sending to Mr. Wexler then?

[jfines69]

Nice work Jim!! Once again, fantastic pics!! I can't thank you enough for looking at this and the other coin too! So you think this one is worth sending to Mr. Wexler then?
You are very welcome... I appreciate you letting me look at these in hand... They are actually very nice DDOs... If it were mine I would send it in or on my end I would add it to my batch to send in :LOL_Hair:

[Petespockets55]

Nice find Jon.
Jim, is that a die scratch or blister under the L of LIBERTY going west to the rim. Looks like it could make a nice marker if from the die.

[jfines69]

Nice find Jon.
Jim, is that a die scratch or blister under the L of LIBERTY going west to the rim. Looks like it could make a nice marker if on the die.
Good catch... I didn't notice it before :LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

You are very welcome... I appreciate you letting me look at these in hand... They are actually very nice DDOs... If it were mine I would send it in or on my end I would add it to my batch to send in :LOL_Hair:


I will send it out with some others eventually. I have a couple so far.

[makecents]

Nice find Jon.
Jim, is that a die scratch or blister under the L of LIBERTY going west to the rim. Looks like it could make a nice marker if on the die.
Thanks Cliff!! Hopefully a few discoveries for all of us this year! We'll see what the MAN says.

[jfines69]

I will send it out with some others eventually. I have a couple so far.
I have like 20 coins that need attributions :LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

Hah hah hah! It's all starting to make sense now. That's why it's taking so long for Mr. Wexler to get to mine, I've got the Jim's of the world sending in rolls to get attributed!:LOL_Hair:

[makecents]

Just wanted to share that I received my coins back today from Jim and got two bonus coins from the penny fairy!! Jim sent me one of his discovery coins, (2015 P WDDO-020) and an elusive coin I have not been able to find (1998 P RDV-006). I'm hoping this will open the WAM floodgates! Thank you Jim!!

[jfines69]

Just wanted to share that I received my coins back today from Jim and got two bonus coins from the penny fairy!! Jim sent me one of his discovery coins, (2015 P WDDO-020) and an elusive coin I have not been able to find (1998 P RDV-006). I'm hoping this will open the WAM floodgates! Thank you Jim!!
Those are from the Penny Fairy :LOL_Hair: You are very welcome Jon!!!