1993 misaligned die clash?

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  • Sheila ruley
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    • May 2016
    • 2504

    #1

    Error Die Clash/Break | 1993 misaligned die clash?

    Ok, I have found a misaligned die clash in the Strike It Rich 4th Edition. It is just above the date and runs into the front of Lincoln's jacket. The value is up to $25. I am not quite sure if this 1993 cent is also a misaligned die clash with it running from the LIBERTY into the jacket. I can't find one with this same location. Opinions anyone?
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  • Sheila ruley
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    • May 2016
    • 2504

    #2
    1994 cent is similar to the one I have, but I can't find anything like the 1993 one I have.

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    • jfines69
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2010
      • 28562

      #3
      I am not sure if it is a Rad MAD or not??? There are only 3 listed on the MAD site for the 1993s http://www.maddieclashes.com/radical...hes-u-s-coins/ Yours also looks like it could be a linear blister??? Did you try a tooth pick to deflate it???
      Jim
      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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      • Sheila ruley
        Paid Member

        • May 2016
        • 2504

        #4
        Yes. I did do the toothpick test. No collapsing at all.

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        • mustbebob
          Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
          • Jul 2008
          • 12757

          #5
          Unfortunately, this is not a Rad Mad. Based on the fact that it progresses onto the profile from the field like it does suggests that it is indeed a gas bubble of some sort. In addition, it is too ragged. A test to perform would be an overlay to see if the arc is the same radius as a coin. What also is missing is the evidence of incuse devices into the inside edge of that arc. Sorry Sheila.
          Bob Piazza
          Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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          • Sheila ruley
            Paid Member

            • May 2016
            • 2504

            #6
            Thank you! It's all good! Better to ask than to wonder. Some of these are hard for me to tell. I generally can tell if it is a gas bubo.

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            • Petespockets55
              Paid Member

              • Dec 2014
              • 6875

              #7
              I was thinking a curved plating blister as well. The bust is incuse/recessed on the die, so if the anvil was to clash there would be no design transfer to the deeper part of the die.
              (The higher, to raised area on his shoulder should NOT have any elements of the clash if it were s clash.).
              Hope I explained this so it makes sense

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              • VAB2013
                Forum Ambassador
                • Nov 2013
                • 12351

                #8
                Originally posted by Petespockets55
                I was thinking a curved plating blister as well. The bust is incuse/recessed on the die, so if the anvil was to clash there would be no design transfer to the deeper part of the die.
                (The higher, to raised area on his shoulder should NOT have any elements of the clash if it were s clash.).
                Hope I explained this so it makes sense
                Seems like all of the ones I saw on maddieclashes with what looks like a curved line running through the bust area were considered not to be a RAD MAD because of lack of evidence of letter or design transfer. I didn't look at every one of them though to see if there were any confirmed ones.

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                • Petespockets55
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                  • Dec 2014
                  • 6875

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VAB2013
                  Seems like all of the ones I saw on maddieclashes with what looks like a curved line running through the bust area were considered not to be a RAD MAD because of lack of evidence of letter or design transfer. I didn't look at every one of them though to see if there were any confirmed ones.
                  That's the way I understand it about the MAD RAD also (cool name by the way).
                  And even though the curved area appears similar to the radius of a LC I don't think this would be a "regular" clash, because it is showing up on the higher surfaces of the bust like Bob said. (Similar to why clash events do not show up on the columns of LMC, only the bays.)

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                  • jfines69
                    Paid Member

                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Petespockets55
                    That's the way I understand it about the MAD RAD also (cool name by the way).
                    And even though the curved area appears similar to the radius of a LC I don't think this would be a "regular" clash, because it is showing up on the higher surfaces of the bust like Bob said. (Similar to why clash events do not show up on the columns of LMC, only the bays.)
                    Here are some clashes to blow the mind








                    I think the depth of the clash can depend on the die wear, dies become somewhat convex with age, and if the die/dies are tilted any then the clashes can be deeper into the design!!!
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • Petespockets55
                      Paid Member

                      • Dec 2014
                      • 6875

                      #11
                      Thanks Jim. Some very impressive clashing going on.
                      And congrats on the first one that is in your collection.

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                      • jfines69
                        Paid Member

                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petespockets55
                        Thanks Jim. Some very impressive clashing going on.
                        And congrats on the first one that is in your collection.
                        You're welcome... Thanks!!!
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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