First: I'm not sure that the "26" is a 26 but I'm calling it that to distinguish between the two coins. I'm posting them together because the anomalies are similar. My thinking is that they are both clashes of parts of the EPU on the reverse. If they are, and if it is a 26, the similarities are intrigueing. I took the best shots that I could of the 26 and these are it. Notice how the EPU is flattened and distorted. It may be just wear but I don't think so. Also note the thiclkness on the western wheat stalk. Anyway, there apper to be a lot going on so I'll tos it out for comments.
1925 D and 1926 D Clashes???
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That's pretty weird (and interesting) George. My first guess would be die cracks. A very common marker for coins from that era were die cracks over or around the VDB. Based on what I am seeing, this looks like it may be substantial cracks on both. I am also looking at deterioration being a possibility, especially in that area.Bob Piazza
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Very nice pics Roller, and it is very odd... and interesting! Odd enough that it made me look at all of the typical and atypical wheat die clashes on maddieclashes.com, but there's not anything similar. Maybe send a PM JC to see if he would like to include them in the UDC (unusual die cracks) listings?Comment
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They used those dies to death in that period.
I think it's mostly deterioration. Might not need a clash, on the die the area between the lower bust and rim is like a dam and the metal flow deteriorates it and where it fails makes a flow to the rim.Comment
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Nice images George. I've regarded this as severe die deterioration.
I posted a thread last year(?) with very similar images showing a 1925 and 1926 (may have even included a 1924) and I referred to it as die deterioration. Trying to show the abuse the dies took during this time period, like Ed said.
But with your close ups I'm having a few doubts about the assessment on mine. I had seen it on many coins, in different stages of progression and even including the rim area between LIBERTY and the bust. As I recall the images on the thread I posted was even more severe than yours. I'm trying to remember if I had seen examples with irregular die cracks along the base of the bust, which is what I based my understanding. The die deteriorating and the die chips falling out creating the "choppy" look to it.
EDIT: Found the thread. It was a 1925s, but my images are very lacking. Jim did bring up the similarity of the anomaly to the letters of "UNITED".Last edited by Petespockets55; 08-05-2019, 07:36 AM.Comment
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They are, indeed, very similar.Nice images George. I've regarded this as severe die deterioration.
I posted a thread last year(?) with very similar images showing a 1925 and 1926 (may have even included a 1924) and I referred to it as die deterioration. Trying to show the abuse the dies took during this time period, like Ed said.
But with your close ups I'm having a few doubts about the assessment on mine. I had seen it on many coins, in different stages of progression and even including the rim area between LIBERTY and the bust. As I recall the images on the thread I posted was even more severe than yours. I'm trying to remember if I had seen examples with irregular die cracks along the base of the bust, which is what I based my understanding. The die deteriorating and the die chips falling out creating the "choppy" look to it.
EDIT: Found the thread. It was a 1925s, but my images are very lacking. Jim did bring up the similarity of the anomaly to the letters of "UNITED".Comment
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I do think you are right that it's a 6!
If you could look at a die or an inverted pic of a cent you'll see what I mean about that thin area of field, it's really like a dam and can fail the same way. Also notice how to some extent some of it follows the design, the biggest fold in the jacket acts like a stringer that reinforced the section of field in line with it so it failed on both sides of that crease but not in line with the crease because the crease is about level with the field so it's like the thin field area is reinforced at that spot.Comment
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