1983 Error or PMD?

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  • jhracing08
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 525

    #1

    1983 Error or PMD?

    Found this in a bank roll today. PMD or what?
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  • jcuve
    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
    • Apr 2008
    • 15458

    #2
    I would think it might have originated as a plating issue but was enhanced by environmental ones later...or all environmental...hard to say...



    Jason Cuvelier


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    • JeanK
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 5696

      #3
      I have looked at your coin a couple of times and compared it with all the pictures I could find of cuds. It does appear to be similar to the LC-83-49R in "The Cud Book" by Thurman and Margolis. Your coin has a much larger break than the photograph in the book.
      If it is not a cud then it is likely to be an improper plating problem. There is more damage on the steps also.
      A nice find!
      Jean

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      • jhracing08
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 525

        #4
        Originally posted by JeanK
        I have looked at your coin a couple of times and compared it with all the pictures I could find of cuds. It does appear to be similar to the LC-83-49R in "The Cud Book" by Thurman and Margolis. Your coin has a much larger break than the photograph in the book.
        If it is not a cud then it is likely to be an improper plating problem. There is more damage on the steps also.
        A nice find!
        Jean
        Thanks Jean, I had no clue what is was when I saw it. It was kind of surprising.
        Jhracing08

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        • jhracing08
          Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 525

          #5
          Doesn't a "Cud" have to be a raised piece of metal tho?
          Jhracing08

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          • jcuve
            Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
            • Apr 2008
            • 15458

            #6
            A CUD would be raised like a bubble on one side and depressed (with a loss of the design) on the other. I don't think this is a CUD.



            Jason Cuvelier


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            • trails
              Moderator, Error Expert
              • Feb 2008
              • 3358

              #7
              What I think you have here is that the zinc core has deteriorated and the copper plate has split over that deterioration causing it to sink in towards the core. Anyway, it is not a "Cud" or a preformatiion of that anomaly type

              BJ Neff
              ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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