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  • kloccwork419
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 6800

    #1

    Good Deal | Brockage...

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    Had to show everyone this..lol..I just dont get it with some of these imaginations. How did they get such a crisp design in there
    Last edited by kloccwork419; 02-09-2010, 02:32 PM.
  • rockdude
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 272

    #2
    Good question.
    An artist is somebody who produces things that people don't need to have.
    Andy Warhol

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    • trails
      Moderator, Error Expert
      • Feb 2008
      • 3358

      #3
      I posed this question to Mike Diamond. It may have been one of the first coins struck by a die cap; however, without the actual weight of this coin, it can be problematic if it is real or not.

      BJ Neff
      ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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      • mustbebob
        Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
        • Jul 2008
        • 12758

        #4
        Kinda looks real to me, but I am not the error expert. I have seen a really crisp brockage before, so by looking at the photos, it looks OK to me.
        Bob Piazza
        Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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        • trails
          Moderator, Error Expert
          • Feb 2008
          • 3358

          #5
          I talked with Mike Diamond concerning this error and though it look good, we both voiced the same concern. This is what Mike said;

          "I totally agree. Without a weight there's no way to tell if it's authentic. With a soft copper planchet, it's easy to grind off one face and press another cent into the blank surface. This can be done without distorting the die-struck face.
          One thing that bugs me about this specimen is how smooth the brockaged surface looks (in between the incuse design elements). One would expect a rougher surface given the look of the opposite face and the considerable circulation it experienced."


          Once again the old thought comes to mind, "why is this error not encapsulated"


          BJ Neff
          ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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          • JonMN34
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 414

            #6
            The overall appearance of the surfaces makes me leery. The reverse shows wear and pitting as well as bag marks, but the overall appearance of the "obverse" lacks these characteristics...

            It'd have to be slabbed for me to touch
            Finally got my "Blog of Finds" going - Looking for copies of the following books: RPM book - (older edition is fine) - CUD book - BIE book

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            • kloccwork419
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 6800

              #7
              How can it be a Brockage without the mushroom look or Broadstruck. Anyone have one that is similar to this one that looks like it was just pressed into the back?

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              • lineop3
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 3760

                #8
                Just for info. As you know, you can invert you pics on your computer to create a mirror image.
                Hope this wasn't the case.

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                • kloccwork419
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 6800

                  #9
                  It sure is a very crisp image. Thats what puzzles me about this coin. How would you get such a crisp image and/or why would ANYONE use such a high grade coin to make the impression? Its just one that would have to be certified.
                  Last edited by kloccwork419; 02-10-2010, 09:47 AM.

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                  • 1sgret

                    #10
                    He states that he cannot find his scales.

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                    • trails
                      Moderator, Error Expert
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3358

                      #11
                      Just to many "Red Flags" for a comfort of buying this coin !!!!!!

                      BJ Neff
                      ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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                      • pennies4pennies
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3293

                        #12
                        One side looks raise lettering and the other side looks as it is inbeded lettering.
                        Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others
                        http://stores.ebay.com/pennies4pennies

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                        • trails
                          Moderator, Error Expert
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3358

                          #13
                          That is the way it should look if struck by a die cap.

                          BJ Neff
                          ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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