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Another one from the hoard. A 1983 cent retained cud.
Billy (dvn)
http://www.dvnmagazine.com/1983precud.jpg
copper_poisoning
09-11-2010, 01:12 PM
Interesting! Wonder if the CUD is known.
Greg
Interesting! Wonder if the CUD is known.
Greg
Me too Greg. Maybe Jean can look in the cud book and see if there is one.
Billy (dvn)
jfines69
09-11-2010, 01:43 PM
Billy,
Is that a crack also???!!!
Jim
copper_poisoning
09-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Billy,
Is that a crack also???!!!
Jim
This might help answer your question.
LINK (http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Errors/Cud.html)
Greg
mikediamond
09-11-2010, 02:35 PM
I would not characterize this as a retained cud as there is no vertical displacement or horizontal offset. In other words, there is no evidence to indicate that this portion of the die was detached. You could call it a pre-cud die crack or an arcing rim-to-rim die crack.
Thanks Mike. I'm hoping it made it to a full cud.
Billy (dvn)
jfines69
09-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Greg,
Thanks for the link... I'm a little better informed... I will get it eventually... LOL!!!
Jim
mikediamond
09-11-2010, 06:02 PM
Remarkably few cuds have been found that are known to have been preceded by a pre-cud die crack. Either pre-cud die cracks have a short life or most cuds break off without any warning.
Remarkably few cuds have been found that are known to have been preceded by a pre-cud die crack. Either pre-cud die cracks have a short life or most cuds break off without any warning.
I must have got lucky. I have a 2000 cent with a rim-to-rim die crack (pre-cud), interestingly in the same area as on this 1983 cent, and the other 2000 cent has the full cud. I checked die markers on both coins just to make sure they were a match and both exhibited the same markers.
Billy (dvn)
jfines69
09-12-2010, 04:07 PM
Now that is an awesome find!!!
Jim