1962 penny looks like mirror image of post in between upper collums?

[bella]

Hi all was looking at some bu 1962 pennys found this 1 lookes to me like there is a mirror image of the right side post at front of steps, in between the upper collums .Any ideas? Thx

[1sgret]

It does look like partial remnants of the planter and the steps in Bay #7. I would have one of the attributers take a "hands on look" to make a determination.

[jfines69]

I agree with Joe... That really looks like a DD to me... I hope one of the attributers chime in!!!

[copperlover]

This looks like a nice find . I agree with Joe and Jim on this one that it is partial remnant of the planter. I would love to see this one attributed. Thanks Bella .Just one note if you could make your pics a bit sharper by stabilizing your camera. Maybe a tripod would help. of If you don't have one I can send you a mini one free of charge.

Lucien

[hasfam]

I'm wondering if it could possibly be caused by an isolated Class IV offset hub with the initial impression north. But It also seems to be tilted slightly. Maybe a Class VI + Class VIII. Interesting to say the least.

[dvn]

I agree, that has excellent possibilities of being a doubled die and definitely needs an in-hand examination.

Billy

[bella]

thx for the responces have 2 other ones that are the just like it but not as strong out of the same roll. who do you send it to to get it attributed? Sorry bout the picks was holding 10x loup an camera at same time shake rattle an rollin lol. what is the best way to get picks ? macro focus on a cammera? Im just using a kodak easey share does not have a macro focus. THx for the help

[dvn]

thx for the responces have 2 other ones that are the just like it but not as strong out of the same roll. who do you send it to to get it attributed? Sorry bout the picks was holding 10x loup an camera at same time shake rattle an rollin lol. what is the best way to get picks ? macro focus on a cammera? Im just using a kodak easey share does not have a macro focus. THx for the help

Bella, if you would like for me to examine and attribute just PM me.

Billy

[georoxx]

My first thought was tilted die clash (evidence elsewhere with heavy abrasions abound), but the anomaly sure does look like the planter.

I'd send it in, for sure.

Nice find.

-George

PS: By the way, these are not planters, but are buttresses topped with an 11-foot tripod carved from pink marble.

[kloccwork419]

I even shows remnants of what looks like steps !!..Lookin good..Ill have to look over my 62 rolls now

[tinytinkerbell]

Wow Bella!! be sure to send it in! It really looks awesome!

[jfines69]

Thanks for the pic George... I always thought it was an urn... So much for what I know... LOL!!!

[JeanK]

Very nice find Bella! Sure hope it is a brand spanking new die variety for you!!!
Jean

[DoubleYou]

I'm leaning more toward a die clash, but certainly get it checked out.

[dvn]

I've done a lot of preliminarily analysis with Bella's images. I can see die clash remnants in the bottom right corner of bay #3 (can be seen in the full coin reverse image). I can also see die clash remnants (chin) in upper bay #9 (same bay we see the anomaly).

When we see the clash outline in upper bay #9, anywhere on the left of that clash outline will be slightly sunken into the coin. To the right side of that clash outline it will be slightly elevated on the coin (opposite on the working die). But that's not what we see in the image particularly in the lower bay #9 where the anomaly in question is located.

I did an transparent clash overlay and couldn't get what is seen in the field area at the bottom of bay #9 to match. Also, even more important, on the left side we see two extra horizontal raised lines which when I did an overlay those two lines matched to the horizontal steps that are extending just left of the primary post. Going even further, we have very light remnants of one of the horizontal steps that can be seen extending on into the next bay over #10 that corresponds with the horizontal line in lower bay #9.

Bella's 1962 cent is very interesting and as far as the possibility of it being an isolated doubled die that would not surprise in the least. There are many examples of isolated doubling in various areas. One such example would be my recent discovery 1990 1c CDDR-002/WDDR-007/1DR-003 exhibiting strong extra floors in lower bays #2 and #3 (which, interestingly, would correspond in the direct opposite area on what we see on this coin). Another perfect example of isolated hub doubling would be the recent discovery of the strong doubled earlobe on the 1988 cent that was produced from a Class IV offset hub doubling.

I'm not saying this is a doubled die. We have learned from past instances that images are one thing and actual examination of the coin is another. What I am saying is that preliminary indications from what we have to go by at this early juncture lean more in favor of it possibly being hub doubling. Of course, when I examine the coin then we will know.

Billy