2009 D Strange Finger...

[SuddenAdoration]

My son and I picked up some bank rolls today and 2 of them were still in the US mint paper roll. The ones in the mint paper rolls were all 2009 D's with Lincoln sitting on a log. One of the coins looks a bit odd, the index finger looks like it has two fingers but one right on top of the other, as if he has a smaller growth of a finger.

I am familiar with the DDR with the extra finger but this one is not were I thought it would be.

Since it's uncirculated could this still be damage or a different variety of a DDR?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/karahbell/Pennies/20120104_225303.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/karahbell/Pennies/20120104_225354.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/karahbell/Pennies/20120104_225702.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/karahbell/Pennies/20120104_225723.jpg

[jallengomez]

Karah,

You might have something there. There are a lot of these from the Denver mint. John Wexler has a great page showing many of the ones found to date. You might be able to match yours up there. Also keep in mind, that if these were mint rolls, if there was one in the roll there are likely to be more from the same die pair.

http://www.doubleddie.com/293022.html

Jody

[SuddenAdoration]

Karah,

You might have something there. There are a lot of these from the Denver mint. John Wexler has a great page showing many of the ones found to date. You might be able to match yours up there. Also keep in mind, that if these were mint rolls, if there was one in the roll there are likely to be more from the same die pair.

http://www.doubleddie.com/293022.html

Jody

That's it Jody Thank you for the link! I did notice a lot of them had other things going on, but I didn't realize they were DDR's! If I find more you can have one too if you want it : ) Thanks for your help.

this is the matching one from Wexlers http://www.doubleddie.com/mediac/450...53ffffe417.jpg

[jallengomez]

Karah-

Awesome find and nice eyes! Congrats on finding another difficult to spot variety.

Whenever you find an original mint roll, or a roll of coins from the same mint bag, if you find one variety, you'll often find other examples in the same roll of the same variety. I think my record has been finding 17 of one particular RPM in the same roll. The fact that a roll of coins from an original mint source is made up(typically) of coins from only a few different die pairs also makes it easier to speed up your searching. I look for prominent die markers on the obverse(because that happens to be the side I always look at first) when examining the coins, and then for each subsequent coin I find with those same die markers I know from previous close examination of the coin if that particular die pair produced a variety. Those markers are like fingerprints from a particular die. If I come across one with a fingerprint I've already searched, then I don't even have to examine any more of the coin because each one produced from that die pair will be the same(with rare, rare exceptions such as when an obverse or reverse die was swapped out.) Granted that sometimes finding obvious die markers can be more difficult with the newer cents. Did all of that even make sense? lol For instance, the DDO I found yesterday had some prominent die markers and one I could easily make out with the eye without the aid of the loupe, so when picking them up from the stack, if I saw that die marker I filed it away as that particular DDO without even looking further at the coin.

Jody

[SuddenAdoration]

Karah-

Awesome find and nice eyes! Congrats on finding another difficult to spot variety.

Whenever you find an original mint roll, or a roll of coins from the same mint bag, if you find one variety, you'll often find other examples in the same roll of the same variety. I think my record has been finding 17 of one particular RPM in the same roll. The fact that a roll of coins from an original mint source is made up(typically) of coins from only a few different die pairs also makes it easier to speed up your searching. I look for prominent die markers on the obverse(because that happens to be the side I always look at first) when examining the coins, and then for each subsequent coin I find with those same die markers I know from previous close examination of the coin if that particular die pair produced a variety. Those markers are like fingerprints from a particular die. If I come across one with a fingerprint I've already searched, then I don't even have to examine any more of the coin because each one produced from that die pair will be the same(with rare, rare exceptions such as when an obverse or reverse die was swapped out.) Granted that sometimes finding obvious die markers can be more difficult with the newer cents. Did all of that even make sense? lol For instance, the DDO I found yesterday had some prominent die markers and one I could easily make out with the eye without the aid of the loupe, so when picking them up from the stack, if I saw that die marker I filed it away as that particular DDO without even looking further at the coin.

Jody

Yes that makes perfect sense and thank you for sharing your search method. You would think it would be common sense but there are so many varieties, and so much that I don't know yet, that I get spastic when searching coins lol I went back to that antique/coin shop... and bought 15 2009 mint rolls (some of them are the other designs, so I have the collection) lol and all BU (2)1955d,(2)1970s, 1972s 1969s, 1963d, 1968s, 1920s, 1980d, another collection of 1940-62... rolls. I will be very busy...


What DDO did you find yesterday?

[jallengomez]

Ha Ha! You haven't seen spastic yet until you've searched a few rolls of the 2009 Professional Life series cents for the doubled windows! Actually I think that could be a torture method at Gitmo. It usually puts me in a haze that is difficult to recover from. No matter how young you are, you'll also have about three grey hairs from that 80-D roll.

Those are some great rolls though and lots of things to find. If I could give any pointers, it would probably be look at coppercoins before searching each roll to see what's been found so far(lots of Class 8's on the date and class 5's on the L in Liberty on the 63-Ds)...on the D mint marks always face to back of the D towards a direct source of light to best see split serifs on the rotated RPMs...and same with the S mint marks. I've found with the S mint marks that I can see split upper serifs best when either the front or back of the S is facing the light source. Good luck!! Can't wait to see some of the results.

I found this one yesterday. It's that big die scratch that runs north from the Y in Liberty that is visible without the loupe.

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1964&die_id=1964p1do006&die_state=mds

Jody