1955 double die lincoln cent

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  • 1909svdb@
    • May 2025

    #1

    1955 double die lincoln cent

    Is this 1955 Doubled Die Authentic ???

    Please give your suggestions...

    Images are on Photobucket: http://photobucket.com/ddocent

    pass: doubleddie1955

    Use the above password please to see the images...


    Thanks
    Last edited by Guest; 05-26-2012, 07:05 PM.
  • RWBILLER
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 6870

    #2
    Hi
    You might want to check with Chuck Doughtrey. His avatar is Coppercoins. In his book, "Looking through Lincoln cents," his chapter on 1955 Doubled dies, is considered the best history and validation on that vararity. You might want to private message him.
    Roger
    ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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    • pman860507
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1577

      #3
      A straight on shot would probably be the best.
      Casey Parman

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      • CoinHELP
        Member
        • May 2012
        • 102

        #4
        The doubling is authentic, but doesn't mean the coin is. The lip and nose is doubled and the doubling is in the correct direction, but I don't know of any other diagnostics. In this grade it's worth sending to have authenticated and graded.
        CoinHELP! My website

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        • coppercoins
          Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
          • Dec 2008
          • 2482

          #5
          This coin appears to be a good struck counterfeit, but I would have to see it in person to verify this.
          Charles D. Daughtrey, NLG, Author, "Looking Through Lincoln Cents"
          [URL="http://www.coppercoins.com/"]http://www.coppercoins.com[/URL]

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          • simonm
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 6398

            #6
            Straight shots would definitely help in this case. Good luck!
            My old coin album.

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            • pman860507
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1577

              #7
              Originally posted by coppercoins
              This coin appears to be a good struck counterfeit, but I would have to see it in person to verify this.
              What shows you that this looks counterfeit? I only ask to learn.
              Casey Parman

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              • onecent1909
                Wrong Design Die Expert
                • Feb 2012
                • 2597

                #8
                you want to look at the rev.at the cross bar of the T in cent...should have 2 die scratches making a x even on fine coins..I have never looked at lower then fine....mine being a xf with scratches... I searched....and found 2 "fakes"..very good ones...they had no scratches..just my input..need to examine the rev....very closely
                Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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                • onecent1909
                  Wrong Design Die Expert
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 2597

                  #9
                  side note......why are all of your post soooooo big?.......and if you are reselling coins.... posting 1909 s vdb and 1955 ddo for sale...cant you examine the 2 coins side by side???? that should help
                  Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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                  • RWBILLER
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 6870

                    #10
                    In my opinion - any raw 1955 ddo should be attributed by someone like Chuck or Bob. I sort of don't understand - Like Pnecent1909 said - compare it with your real one. Are you a coin dealer selling coins? I'm confused - which is normal!
                    Roger
                    ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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                    • 1909svdb@

                      #11
                      Image was forwarded to me by a client and he's not sure if it's authentic. That's the reason i posted here.

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                      • 1909svdb@

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RWBILLER
                        In my opinion - any raw 1955 ddo should be attributed by someone like Chuck or Bob. I sort of don't understand - Like Pnecent1909 said - compare it with your real one. Are you a coin dealer selling coins? I'm confused - which is normal!
                        I'm not a dealer just a re seller

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                        • jallengomez
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4447

                          #13
                          Here are the stage A and B markers.

                          Die varieties such as doubled dies, Repunched mint marks (RPMs), Over Mint Marks (OMMs), Repunched Dates, Overdates, coin design varieties, as well as regular coins and error coins.
                          “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                          • coppercoins
                            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2482

                            #14
                            What makes it look not right? 30 years of looking at them for one - but to try to put it into words that have some chance of helping...the surfaces don't look right, nor do the details. They look rougher than they should. Additionally, the rims look too thin and too sharp. The wheat stalks look too far from the rim. It's just a number of things that do not quite look right.

                            Again, the photos are not good for drawing conclusions on a coin like this. A number of things can make these look fake and be real - like cleaning, waxing, and a number of other harsh and nasty things that have been done to a large number of these doubled dies because they were "special coins" and people back in the day just HAD to "polish them up and make them look nice."

                            There are a number of different reasons why something like this should first be examined by a specialist, then second sent in for certification. I would put them in that order because having me look at the coin would cost $10. Having it put in a certified holder costs a minimum of $20...and that cost is the same if they decide it's counterfeit and send it back to you uncertified.

                            Something else worth mentioning. The die scratches someone else mentioned in this thread to be sure the coin is real - are unreliable. Those scratches were not on the die when it was placed into service, thus some coins were minted before the scratches were placed onto the die. Looking for the scratches may help, but will not always help.
                            Charles D. Daughtrey, NLG, Author, "Looking Through Lincoln Cents"
                            [URL="http://www.coppercoins.com/"]http://www.coppercoins.com[/URL]

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                            • seal006
                              Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2330

                              #15
                              Chuck, I am amazed at how much you hae stored in your head. When first saw this thread I immediately pulled out my copy of Looking Through Lincoln Cents I wanted to read what you would think about this coin. What you state above is pretty spot on what I would have gathered from reading your book and your posts on this and other forums.
                              "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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