mid-sixties

[ogler]

I notice a lot of mid sixties pennies have some sort of tale-tell signs of doubling at the profile: lips,under chin, neck and lapel. Is THIS considered Doubling.....or what?

[uglycent]

Machine doubling is very common, either from the design depth or worn out machines. I have found some really incredible looking doubles that are essentially worthless other than odd curiosities.
You might consider picking up Chuck Daughtrey's book, Looking through Lincoln cents. It will give a year by year explanation of the anomalies that occurred in that frame of time.

[ogler]

thanks..interesting....

I'm the first to admit my ignorance regarding most thing having to do with coins. And,...I don't mean to offend anyone but I'd Like to have a better understanding of things. I've seen photos of coins that have been Enlarged so big that they are the size of a basketball, the letters the size of grapefruit....and then see a little arrow pointing to some minute little mark......that would not EVER be seen/noticed without the enlargement. How in the world does something like that have any bearing on value? Before the advent of the computer microscope....the only doubling I ever heard of was '55s, '72s, and '83s (at the "U"), and the '84 doubled ear......HOW can there be any kind of value/collectibility for something that cannot be seen with the naked eye? (I use an eye-piece magnifier....though I'm working towards improvement, but I won't be seeking an electon micron.....just a simple little thing like a QX5 maybe). so.......what do you think?

[Maineman750]

The answer is simple...supply and demand. People learn about stuff, want it, and the price goes up. If any of us had common sense, we would pay less for a damaged or imperfect coin...not more.

[thecentcollector]

It's called error/variety specialists. There's a difference between a dealer that wants only the best doubled dies, and one that specializes in them. Granted, there's a fine line as to how minor a variety can be, but the beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder. I'm legally blind in one eye, but I consider myself a specialist. I can't see many varieties "naked-eye", but it doesn't mean I don't still enjoy them.... just had to adapt, and find a way to enjoy them.

[amosamos16]

I found that many varieties just are not worth anything to most people. Id say maybe less than 6 have dollar signs and will sell the minute they hit the auction house or dealers table. All be it, they better be problem free,in a high grade, and in pcgs plastic. LIke most of of the stuff posted here , either way to minor, ample examples in the market, or low grade junk. That 11 d rpm posted here the other day was by far the best variety posted in a long time. Maineman 72 # 4 was tops.

[mustbebob]

It seems we are assuming that most people only collect coins to sell, but there is nothing further from the truth. There are people who seek only to start and possibly finish a collection. When you just look at the size of a coin, you will understand why magnification is necessary. It is also necessary to verify the nuances of a coin that can verify if it is a specific variety.
You are absolutely correct about some coins needing an electron microscope to see some of the things going on. However, if you take a good look at the sites that offer the micro photography of coin, you should certainly be able to understand why these grab our attention. The coins were not supposed to have these anomalies...yet they do. For that reason alone, they are collectible.
Any time someone talks about collecting anything, they must establish some sort of ground rules about what they want. If the fact that you have to look at coins with a loupe or scope before seeing something nice, then maybe it is not the hobby for you. Obviously, there is a large market for them, so a lot of folks don't mind.

[jcuve]

Stick with key dates and such and leave the varieties that need magnification to someone who is interested.

The 1960s are notorious for having machine doubling on the portrait.

[flyhi3]

I couldn't have said it better Bob...........