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  • grnwavdav
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2485

    #1

    1921 s rpm s/s/s?

    I got this yesterday for $.03. I can't tell if this is a RPM or not. I think it is a S/S/S all to the south. I know the date has some extreme MD but that's not what makes this look to be a RPM. Do you see the two lines in the bottom loop of the S and also the tail to the south of the bottom serif? The top of the S looks extra thick also but I suspect that might be due to the MD but maybe not.

    And also was this coin harshly cleaned??? Or is this just a bad alloy mix? I'm thinking it has signs of a old harsh cleaning.
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  • Brad
    Founder: Lincoln Cent Resource

    • Nov 2007
    • 4949

    #2
    Looks like a bad alloy mix. Can we see the entire coin?
    Brad
    Lincoln Cent Resource
    My PCGS Registry

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    • fugnchill

      #3
      Hi Dave,

      I think I'm leaning towards die chips, die fatigue and just plain wear but the lower loop and serif sure do make you think hmmmmm. I'm not good at diagnosing old cleaning jobs so I won't comment on that portion. Just my humble opinion.

      .03 cents, can't go wrong.
      Lestrrr

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      • grnwavdav
        Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 2485

        #4
        Here's the whole coin.
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        David Miller - CONECA member

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        • Steven
          Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 2691

          #5
          I'm thinking several things going on at once with this one MD, Die chip, gouge, wear......and as you say harsh cleaning.. May want to put it back though should a better example come along. Possiblity may be there for a die variety as well.

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          • 1sgret

            #6
            I have to agree and I think also improper alloy mix and then Harshly cleaned. Not sure about the MM.

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            • RWBILLER
              Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 6870

              #7
              I agree with joe the early lincoln - from 1916 thru 1929 - yea from 1909 seem to have alot of examples of improper mix of the alloys. As the coin tones the alloys will tone different than the rest of the coin - thus producing streaks.
              Thx
              roger
              Roger
              ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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              • CCC

                #8
                The first thing is there is Lamination problem. The thing about the MM hasn't been cleared up. The S appear's to have a chip or broken punch to the South of the upper curve. That is my assesment.

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                • eaxtellcoin
                  Paid Member

                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2086

                  #9
                  I agree with the other oppinions. The upper portion looks just like a filled die or die fatigue, ""Upper loop of the "S". There is not any remnants of another "S" in the field of the lower curve like there should be and the lower portion, ""Directly below the primary "S" is curved in the wrong direction. May be wear but most likely a die chip...
                  A NICE 21-S for .03 cents though!!!!!!!!!!

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