1987-D with missing FG on reverse

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  • galagems
    • May 2025

    #1

    1987-D with missing FG on reverse

    I found an interesting 1987-D penny with the missing FG on reverse and double die Liberty. Any information on this one?
  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12757

    #2
    We need photos. Do you have any?
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • jcuve
      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
      • Apr 2008
      • 15458

      #3
      Welcome to the forum!
      We do need photos. The FG could be from die abrasion or a struck through grease filled die. The obverse we'll need to see and have a more complete explanation of what where and why. The proper term is doubled die (with a d).



      Jason Cuvelier


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      • galagems

        #4
        Please use the posted link for the photos. Thanks

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        • Scott99
          Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2068

          #5
          Originally posted by galagems
          Please use the posted link for the photos. Thanks
          There is no posted link.

          I see....
          Here's the link to the picture!!!!
          Matthew Sallee

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          • jcuve
            Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
            • Apr 2008
            • 15458

            #6
            Ok, I see what you're pointing at, I am just not sure what to make of it yet...

            Last edited by jcuve; 02-23-2013, 08:19 PM.



            Jason Cuvelier


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            • jcuve
              Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
              • Apr 2008
              • 15458

              #7
              Looks like the reverse was struck through grease making the FG and some other details vanish.




              Jason Cuvelier


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              TrailDies.com - Error-ref.com - Port.Cuvelier.org
              CONECA

              (images © Jason Cuvelier 2008-18)___________________

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              • pennies4pennies
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 3293

                #8
                I agree with Jason on the rev. Struck through grease. You can still see part of the F. Liberty I can't help.
                Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others
                http://stores.ebay.com/pennies4pennies

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                • Peter
                  Administrator

                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1633

                  #9
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                  • wapa
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2409

                    #10
                    Hi galagems, welcome to the forums. Enjoy your journey. Like the others said above it looks like a struck through. There are remnants of the fg though, the liberty it picture is just too grainy to tell anything.

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                    • mustbebob
                      Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 12757

                      #11
                      Welcome galagems!

                      It would be safe to say that NO die will have a missing FG. They are all hubbed with master hubs and dies that have this feature already on it. Therefore, any case of design elements that appear to be missing are the result of something else such as struck throughs, filled devices or over abrading.
                      One of the main things you can do to understand things like this is to know the minting process. Know what is possible and impossible.
                      I will never discourage anyone from asking their questions here, but as we can all learn, you will find that you can answer a lot of your own questions if you understand the process in the first place.
                      Bob Piazza
                      Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                      • GrumpyEd
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7229

                        #12
                        The coin in the post may be from grease.
                        There are many from abraded dies.
                        It's well known on Kennedy halves and some years for cents.
                        On some years the halves without it go for a good premium.

                        Both sets of pics show a normal coin on the right and a coin from an abraded die on the left:

                        83-P cent with FG almost gone:



                        82-P Kennedy half:

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                        • wapa
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2409

                          #13
                          Not that it matters Ed I thought it was the 72 that was missing the FG. Maybe both years?

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                          • GrumpyEd
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7229

                            #14
                            Not that it matters Ed I thought it was the 72 that was missing the FG. Maybe both years?
                            There are several years known.
                            I've found it on 82 and 83.
                            I think 72-D is one of the tougher ones with a nice premium.
                            Some have FS numbers, I saw a nice 66 SMS slabbed with an FS number.

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                            • wapa
                              Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2409

                              #15
                              Cool my son looks at Kennedy's. I was unaware of the 82, though he probably isn't. lol Thanks for the info. He did find a 72 d but it isn't the good one. It is missing the initials, but it could be a struck through.

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