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  • pennies4pennies
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    • Dec 2008
    • 3293

    #1

    1956 2.22 grams

    I have this 1956 that was in a old pile of coins that's been sitting for years that I forgot about.
    Anyway this 1956 weight is 2.22 grams far from the 3.11. Maybe struck on a different planchet.
    It's the same size as a wheat cent but a very thin rim and the thickness is thin. Maybe wrong planchet causing
    a weaker strike? I don't see any grinding marks on the rim. It's nice and round. I don't see aced holes.
    Any thoughts?
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  • cimperialis
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    • Mar 2011
    • 1968

    #2
    I don't know which it is, but I've narrowed it down to two possibilities.

    1. Soaked in acid a long time ago, then circulated again, smoothing the surfaces over.

    2. Struck on split planchet.
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    • flyhi3
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      • Mar 2012
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      #3
      I am more inclined to say an acid coin than anything, because A. it appears corroded on both sides, and B. the strike is not as weak on either side as I would expect it to be based on other split plancets I have seen.
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      • pennies4pennies
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Originally posted by cimperialis
        I don't know which it is, but I've narrowed it down to two possibilities.

        1. Soaked in acid a long time ago, then circulated again, smoothing the surfaces over.

        2. Struck on split planchet.
        I really don't think it's acid. I would think it would of been holes left even done a long time ago. The rev where it says one cent stands out normal, except for circulation contact marks. If soaked in acid wouldn't the whole coin have the same effect?
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        • flyhi3
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          • Mar 2012
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          #5
          Originally posted by pennies4pennies
          I really don't think it's acid. I would think it would of been holes left even done a long time ago. The rev where it says one cent stands out normal, except for circulation contact marks. If soaked in acid wouldn't the whole coin have the same effect?
          Maybe its just the pictures, but it appears to be porous as if acid soaked. If it is not porous, then I would think it might be a Struck on rolled thin planchet error.
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          • Maineman750
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            • Apr 2011
            • 12079

            #6
            Is it slightly smaller in diameter ? I've read that acid works on the rims.
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            • liveandievarieties
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              • Feb 2011
              • 6049

              #7
              It's an acid job. See how the devices are reduced? The lettering and date are far more thin. This is an indication that some chemical has reduced the metal on the coin.
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              • pennies4pennies
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                • Dec 2008
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                #8
                Acid works all over but my point is that there are no acid marks on the coin. Some of the letters maybe but the field has nothing to show for acid. Even tight area
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                • pennies4pennies
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by liveandievarieties
                  It's an acid job. See how the devices are reduced? The lettering and date are far more thin. This is an indication that some chemical has reduced the metal on the coin.
                  If this is true Chris then how did the coin become so thin and still leave the strike. It's almost half the thickness.
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                  • jcuve
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                    • Apr 2008
                    • 15458

                    #10
                    It just doesn't resemble a planchet error to me. The overall thinning of the devices seems inconsistent with an already thin planchet, regardless of how it got to be that way.

                    Could someone, ages ago, have soaked wheats in a corrosive and then ground the rims down to make it about the same size as a dime maybe? Whether it worked or not, it was then circulated...



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                    • liveandievarieties
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      #11
                      Remember Frank, acid recuces all surfaces at the same time- the devices, the fields and the rim all shrink in size while retaining their shape. The coin will be thinner, smaller diameter and still have die details when acid damaged.
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                      • coop
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                        • Jan 2012
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                        #12
                        In the 50's 60's they used cents that they dipped in acid at the chemistry class to reduce the size of a cent to a size of a dime. These they would use to put in a soda machine and get a soda. At that time you could get a bottle of pop for 7-10 cents. If you found a 7 cent machine (They had 7 oz. bottles in them) you would get back change for a dime. They still acid dip coin to make something that the coin is not. I never did this, but I discovered later on that this happened.
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                        • pennies4pennies
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jcuve
                          It just doesn't resemble a planchet error to me. The overall thinning of the devices seems inconsistent with an already thin planchet, regardless of how it got to be that way.

                          Could someone, ages ago, have soaked wheats in a corrosive and then ground the rims down to make it about the same size as a dime maybe? Whether it worked or not, it was then circulated...
                          Everybody has made good points. At first I thought acid until I look closer. Yes it's been circulated and many contact marks.
                          For kicks when I send some coins out to Jason or Bob I'll send this one for a in hand look. I just can't see how some letters look fine and others have that acid look. The Planchet is thin but does get a little wide as it goes around. This could cause a weaker strike. Anyway thanks for all the comments. Good points made. In hand will tell. Maybe I'm just hard headed on this one, But I do have it in hand and you don't.

                          Thanks everyone.
                          Frank
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                          • coop
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                            • Jan 2012
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                            #14
                            First clue. Look at the rims on your coin. The acid reduces the same amount all over the coin. Devices will still show as they are thicker. Save the postage. It been acid dipped.
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                            • liveandievarieties
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                              • Feb 2011
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                              #15
                              I agree with Coop, but understand where you're coming from Frank. Sometimes we have to hear it from the horse's mouth. You'll easily recognize these in the future when you come across them, we see several a week when going through bags.
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