1913s RPM?

[amnight]

Hi, I wanted to know if the coin in the pictures is the 1913s 1MM-001? I tried looking for markers but couldn't find any.The mint mark looks like it is in the right position, I'm just not positive. Thanks for the help!

[eaxtellcoin]

Steve,
The position is wrong for Coneca's RPM#1 "To far East". The upper serif looks promising but without it in hand it's just a guess. Send to Bob or see what he thinks..

[coop]

It looks like the die was showing die deterioration on the Upper NW direction of the devices. The example I have shows a lot more die wear.

[amnight]

Thanks for the help guys! Maybe Bob will chime in and tell me if I have anything besides die deterioration. Here is a picture of the reverse also.

[admrose]

RPM or not, that is a nice looking 13-S.

[seal006]

Thanks for the help guys! Maybe Bob will chime in and tell me if I have anything besides die deterioration. Here is a picture of the reverse also.

You may not be as familiar with Coop as you are Bob, but I can tell you, Coop is more than capable of telling if it is an RPM or not. Richard Cooper is credited with many RPM discoveries that you see on the CC website. Some of the photos on the site were also taken by him. Coop is a class act, and what one would call an "expert" in the die variety niche.

[amnight]

Thanks admrose! Also, thank you Sean for informing me about Coop! I had no idea about him being so well respected.
Thanks for the info Coop! I'll keep up the hunt!

[seal006]

You may not be as familiar with Coop as you are Bob, but I can tell you, Coop is more than capable of telling if it is an RPM or not. Richard Cooper is credited with many RPM discoveries that you see on the CC website. Some of the photos on the site were also taken by him. Coop is a class act, and what one would call an "expert" in the die variety niche.

Your welcome. Unlike any other forum, here on LCR, one does not need to look very far to find an expert. Especially the kind of expert that is so willing to help out a fellow collector.

[simonm]

I'm going to go out on a limb here. The top serif looks like it has a split. Now, if that is due to it being an RPM or a coincidental hit, I am not sure.

[coop]

Thanks guys. I appreciate that.

[GrumpyEd]

Great example Coop!

Certain years seemed to grow some very convincing mintmarks that really can look like RPMs.
1929-S is a good example, the die wear made some really confusing mintmarks.

My question about Coops example and the coin in the post is the direction, shouldn't the die wear grow it more towards the rim?

[mustbebob]

Sorry folks. I did not have, time to get on the forum yesterday. I don't think I would be able to attribute or list this one. There is just too much circulation wear and/or dings o make a favorable determination. Would need to see it in better condition to make an accurate assessment.
Also, I agree completely with the comments about Coop. He is more than capable of determining what's what in the field. We just haven't mentioned it as much as we should have.

[coop]

My question about Coops example and the coin in the post is the direction, shouldn't the die wear grow it more towards the rim?

I've often wonder that as well. Something must have been going on differently that year. The die wear is always toward the rim. I wondered if the hub was extremely worn that year? I've seen many examples of Cents mint mark from San Francisco having the same wear pattern, but the mint mark on my coin shows the same direction of die deterioration as the rest of the date. The pattern is just wrong, so there might be another explanation that we haven't come up with yet?