Struck through heavy grease?

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  • mrmike916
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1381

    #1

    Struck through heavy grease?

    Looks like a genuine error to me but I'm not possitive.
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  • simonm
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 6398

    #2
    Definitely looks like a major struck through grease, nice find Mike!
    My old coin album.

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    • jallengomez
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4447

      #3
      Nice find Mike. Looks like you might have a "greasy ghost" too.



      Jody
      Last edited by jallengomez; 10-01-2013, 05:48 PM.
      “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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      • busyeye
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 1920

        #4
        Yes very nice!

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        • jcuve
          Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
          • Apr 2008
          • 15458

          #5
          Yep, a coin struck thru grease filled dies



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          • mrmike916
            Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 1381

            #6
            Originally posted by jallengomez
            Nice find Mike. Looks like you might have a "greasy ghost" too.

            Jody
            Thought it may be! Are these very common?

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            • GrumpyEd
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 7229

              #7
              Originally posted by mrmike916
              Thought it may be! Are these very common?
              Not common but not extremely rare either.

              I've wondered why coins struck through grease don't often have signs of grease on them. Is it because of the consistency, like the grease is really hard and packed into the die and covered with metal debris not like we think of grease? Anyone know?

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              • Gunnovice09
                Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 1050

                #8
                I would think that maybe Circulation cleans them off a bit. However, I know about as much about the minting process as I do rocket science so you got me.

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                • Maineman750
                  Administrator

                  • Apr 2011
                  • 12070

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                  Not common but not extremely rare either.

                  I've wondered why coins struck through grease don't often have signs of grease on them. Is it because of the consistency, like the grease is really hard and packed into the die and covered with metal debris not like we think of grease? Anyone know?

                  Yes, you described it correctly.
                  https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                  • jallengomez
                    Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4447

                    #10
                    What we see with the "struck throughs" is more than likely a mix of grease and other gunk. The key is that it has hardened though and accumulates on the dies. I do find residual grease on a lot of the unc rolls that I search from the 60s.
                    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                    • Arjohn
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 828

                      #11
                      Help me out here. The "grease" is actually a mixture of gunk (scientific term) that builds up on dies eventually becoming noticeable. How many cents are struck in a minute? Seems to me, once the grease build up is even slightly noticeable that the coins would be culled. Also -- with a coin like Mrmike shows, how many minor grease strikes are out there and why aren't there more? If that one (really nice BTW) got by there should be tons of less strength one in circulation....
                      ArJohn

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                      • mrmike916
                        Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Arjohn
                        Help me out here. The "grease" is actually a mixture of gunk (scientific term) that builds up on dies eventually becoming noticeable. How many cents are struck in a minute? Seems to me, once the grease build up is even slightly noticeable that the coins would be culled. Also -- with a coin like Mrmike shows, how many minor grease strikes are out there and why aren't there more? If that one (really nice BTW) got by there should be tons of less strength one in circulation....
                        I definetly can't answer your question, but I do have one more. Very minor in comparison, I believe it was caused by the same situation.


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                        • Maineman750
                          Administrator

                          • Apr 2011
                          • 12070

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Arjohn
                          Help me out here. The "grease" is actually a mixture of gunk (scientific term) that builds up on dies eventually becoming noticeable. How many cents are struck in a minute? Seems to me, once the grease build up is even slightly noticeable that the coins would be culled. Also -- with a coin like Mrmike shows, how many minor grease strikes are out there and why aren't there more? If that one (really nice BTW) got by there should be tons of less strength one in circulation....
                          Despite what you might think...they are not checking all that many coins and something minor like a grease strike very likely will slip by just as RPMs and doubled dies do. And...there are lots of struck thru grease examples in circulation...I find them all the time...there is half a tube full on my desk right now..I'd be glad to send you a few if you're not finding them.
                          https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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