1910 Matte Proof?

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  • Magers
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 889

    #1

    1910 Matte Proof?

    Is it possible that this coin is a matte proof? Recently there has been some discussion of matte proofs, and I thought I'd get to asking while it was on everyone's mind. The rims seem to be very sharp and the details and finish of the coin had me scratching my head. Also, The diagnostics in the Kevin Flynn's book seem to match up with this coin. I am well aware this is probably wishful thinking on my part but, I had to ask. On a side note, I should be receiving a 1910 MPL very shortly, so when I do I'll post comparison pics.Thanks in advance, I appreciate the help.
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  • kloccwork419
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 6800

    #2
    Beautiful coin. All the ones I seen have die scratches below the bust and around WE TRUST. You can get really good pictures off heritage to compare with.

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    • coop
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2754

      #3
      Here is one:

      This one shows the sharp rim better:
      Last edited by coop; 10-18-2013, 05:54 PM.
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      • georoxx

        #4
        I'm no expert, but from what I've learned and seen in pics, it looks good to me.

        Either way, nice coin.

        -George

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        • kloccwork419
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 6800

          #5
          I don't think its a proof. A nice coin but not a proof to me. Doesnt have any of the markers seen on any 1910 I seen. Look up heritage auctions and compare it.

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          • simonm
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 6398

            #6
            I'm definitely not an expert on Matte Proofs, but I would expect the rim on the outside to be more sharp...I would say it's a nice coin, but I don't think it's a proof.
            My old coin album.

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            • georoxx

              #7
              Originally posted by kloccwork419
              I don't think its a proof. A nice coin but not a proof to me. Doesnt have any of the markers seen on any 1910 I seen. Look up heritage auctions and compare it.
              Did they use only one die for these..? or multiple dies..?

              -George

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              • Magers
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 889

                #8
                Originally posted by georoxx
                Did they use only one die for these..? or multiple dies..?

                -George
                Kevin Flynn's book says there were two die pairings for 1910...

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                • coop
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2754

                  #9
                  They were struck in 1909-1915 with 1,000-4,000 mintage numbers for the different years. So they are probably only used one die per year? But who knows for sure? Roughly a total of 17,000 examples adding the "Red Book" numbers.
                  Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.

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                  • coppercoins
                    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2482

                    #10
                    The coin in this thread is not proof. Details are not sharp enough, rim not sharp enough, and the fields are not the right texture.

                    Many of the 1910 plain coins were struck pretty well - some better than others. But all of them are detectable from a proof rather easily once you get some experience looking at the proofs.
                    Charles D. Daughtrey, NLG, Author, "Looking Through Lincoln Cents"
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                    • jallengomez
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4447

                      #11
                      I've never seen one that didn't have the die gouge above the first T in TRUST. Take a look at this image-

                      “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                      • georoxx

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jallengomez
                        I've never seen one that didn't have the die gouge above the first T in TRUST. Take a look at this image-

                        http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/240...133477_max.jpg
                        The rim sure doesn't look very sharp to me on that coin, J. Am I wrong..? Especially at the top near your gouge.

                        -George

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                        • Magers
                          Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 889

                          #13
                          Thank you everyone, either way this coin looks like it's an upgrade to my current 1910 MS63BN example. I'm happy, I just can't wait to get my hands on a matte proof. Hopefully it'll show up tomorrow.

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