is this a poorman 1955 double die?

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  • zktk01
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    • Mar 2018
    • 15

    #1

    is this a poorman 1955 double die?

    I know the poorman double die is just a deteriorated die on the last 5, I was just looking through some wheats and found this 1955. I wanted to know if it was the poorman double die variety?
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  • makecents
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    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #2
    It sure looks like it. Let's see what the more knowledgeable folks say. Here is a link. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/F...oubleddie.html

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    • GrumpyEd
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      • Jan 2013
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      #3
      Yes, that's what they called them.

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      • Petespockets55
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        • Dec 2014
        • 6890

        #4
        It probably is, but my question is whether the "Poorman's" is a true variety?
        (Or a marketing ploy?)

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        • jfines69
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #5
          Originally posted by Petespockets55
          It probably is, but my question is whether the "Poorman's" is a true variety?
          (Or a marketing ploy?)
          Not a true variety but used by some as a marketing ploy!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • jfines69
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            • Jun 2010
            • 28848

            #6
            Looks like an earlier die state than some of the heavier worn dies... I think the mint used the dies until they died
            Jim
            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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            • GrumpyEd
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              • Jan 2013
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              #7
              Originally posted by Petespockets55
              It probably is, but my question is whether the "Poorman's" is a true variety?
              (Or a marketing ploy?)
              It's die deterioration doubling, it's a quality issue or some would call it a minor error. It's not truly a variety.
              They have been mis-named for so long as a "poormans doubled die" that it's not going to change and it's so well known that it became collectable.

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              • makecents
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                • Jun 2017
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                #8
                Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                It's die deterioration doubling, it's a quality issue or some would call it a minor error. It's not truly a variety.
                They have been mis-named for so long as a "poormans doubled die" that it's not going to change and it's so well known that it became collectable.
                That's what the LCR link I put up says, that the dealers made it popular and some grading companies even certify it as a variety even though it's not.

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                • jfines69
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by makecents
                  That's what the LCR link I put up says, that the dealers made it popular and some grading companies even certify it as a variety even though it's not.
                  They like to say show me the money
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • Petespockets55
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                    • Dec 2014
                    • 6890

                    #10
                    I like the comments on this one.
                    I never considered it a variety and knew about the die damage but didn't know what the real designation was. Similar to the 1922 no D Lincoln or the three leg Buffalo being a different type of die damage but aren't they are still considered a variety?

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                    • GrumpyEd
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7229

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petespockets55
                      I like the comments on this one.
                      I never considered it a variety and knew about the die damage but didn't know what the real designation was. Similar to the 1922 no D Lincoln or the three leg Buffalo being a different type of die damage but aren't they are still considered a variety?

                      I always said those coins should only be called a "type" they are really a die state not a die variety from when the die was made.
                      They give 22Ps die numbers but only in a certain die state.

                      Show me a slabbed 1922-P die 2 in EDS with a D slabbed as a "die 2" ?????

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                      • Petespockets55
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                        • Dec 2014
                        • 6890

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                        I always said those coins should only be called a "type" they are really a die state not a die variety from when the die was made.
                        They give 22Ps die numbers but only in a certain die state.

                        Show me a slabbed 1922-P die 2 in EDS with a D slabbed as a "die 2" ?????
                        I really like your reference to them being a die state "type". Much more accurate.

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                        • jfines69
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Petespockets55
                          I really like your reference to them being a die state "type". Much more accurate.
                          I agree... That does sound like a much better description!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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