2018-P die chip on nose or coin-damage?

[mindtab]

So here we go with unknowns again. This chip on the 2018-P Lincoln's nose. And off the chin. ANd to the side. And on the reverse, bottom of shield. I haven't seen it on another 2018-P's yet. Tho, there are many here yet to go through. Maybe I will. THere are just too many.
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[willbrooks]

It's a linear plating blister.
Blistered Plating (also called plating bubbles): Gas bubbles that form under the copper plating on copper-plated zinc planchets. Gasses or contaminants that get trapped under the plating expand from the resulting heat and pressure during the strike, causing the plating to push up. These bubbles can vary widely in scope and appearance ranging from small scattered bumps to large elongated or “linear” blisters.

[mindtab]

willbrooks. so the rest are also plating blister or die cracks? all of them seem elongated to some degree or another. I would rather look at copper pennies, than these one, the shields; they are so poorly made. Maybe some other people have a different opinion, but I have looked so far, at recent coins that are not even 1 yr old -- that look worse than decade old pennies. And should there be that many 'mistakes' in the pennies made today? Not that I mind, but wondering on the process.
I just started looking at pennies...but personally, these shield 'toy' pennies are not my cup of tea.

[VAB2013]

I have to agree with you on the copper cents and prefer to search them over Shield cents. But, there are some very nice varieties out there from 1982 to current year zincs. When I see an ugly Zincoln I check for a variety real quick and keep on searching! It is possible to find a Lincoln zinc cent variety still in very nice condition!

Will is going to enjoy your post... he has his own terms for Zincoln's!

[mindtab]

I have to agree with you on the copper cents and prefer to search them over Shield cents. But, there are some very nice varieties out there from 1982 to current year zincs. When I see an ugly Zincoln I check for a variety real quick and keep on searching! It is possible to find a Lincoln zinc cent variety still in very nice condition!

Will is going to enjoy your post... he has his own terms for Zincoln's!

Viv, I understand, the searching goes on. Funny --on the wording 'ugly Zilconln' (you should actually coin that, no pun intented)!. The Zincs don't grab me much. ANd there are so many that show, and so many that are too damaged (so soon) for even bothering to spend time with, that ...well, there, that is. But, good luck with finding things with them. I only spent this about 2 days looking over the so many lingering here, that I am totally overwhelmed. ANd tired of looking at mostly not any worthwhile ones. Really. DIgns, scratches everywhere, dirt, and so on that I wouldn't expect for a newer coin. I kind of get to forgive many of those on the older coins. In fact, I like old copper coins now, and mostly the ones that at least have some character to them and some color.

But I do look at the 1998, 99, 2000 for wide am and the 92D (like you found), for the close am. That's it as far as 1990 and after.

[VAB2013]

Actually I didn't come up with Ugly Zincoln... I think Jim did, or maybe it was Will, but no worries... we all realize the same thing you are dealing with! And, I think it was mostly directed to Shield cents, not pre-Shields.

What you might want to do is just search the pretty Zincolns (Shield cents), that way if you find a doubled die you've really got something nice! One reason I check the ugly ones is... it might be a doubled die I have not found yet, or a better one (upgrade) of one I found that was uglier LOL! Just do what you enjoy... that's what matters

[mindtab]

Just as an addon to the Zilnconln' (the new star trek naming I reckon), they are just too light in weight for me. They feel like fountain coins, something I can just throw in. Back in the 1800's and the wild west, well...a few gold coins or anything to weigh down your pockets meant you had some money. Beside the notes, but that's not in the discussion here. So, throw in these Zilconln's from the outer space (and I bet even Mars has copper on it) and I just can't 'fly' with its lightness. Like, can't they just switch back to copper? Am sure China is done buying copper since 2004 or so. And even for the Mint--- it would be an event of proportions.

[VAB2013]

I wish the Mint would go back to copper too, but I don't think that will happen with Lincoln's. Will can tell you a story about the possibility of the mint using some kind of plastic in the future! Hope not... but I'll let him tell you the story!

[mindtab]

Indeed, Viv.

[mindtab]

I wish the mint would go back to copper too, but I don't think that will happen with Lincoln's. Will can tell you a story about the possibility of the mint using some kind of plastic in the future! Hope not... but I'll let him tell you the story!

Plastic? OMG -- now that would quite a reflection on things. Or maybe completely matte. Maybe they are shooting for some kind of transparency with it. My mind is flowing. I don't think they would work very well in counting machines, if plastic.

According to some speculations, the runnout off metal forecast is:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/forecast-when-well-run-out-of-each-metal/

But then, that depends on what each nation uses. For example, I remember in the early 2000's selling a lot of metal, copper, steel and aluminum; (CHina was buying everything for the Olympics 2008). It was selling like crazy back west. It depends on the expenditures and or damages around the world. But so far, zinc doesn't look like it's going to last long.

And everything is ruled by world economy and the world banks, and so on... It hurts your head to think about them all.

https://www.thebalance.com/base-metals-building-blocks-of-infrastructure-4122150

The worst is, unfortunately, not being biased but as is ---'The largest consumer is China'. Never ends.

[VAB2013]

Very interesting links! Thank you! Well, from the looks of it copper might make a come back. Zinc ain't looking too good, like you said!

[mindtab]

Very interesting links! Thank you! Well, from the looks of it copper might make a come back. Zinc ain't looking too good, like you said!

Read below the links, the forum. Very interesting discussions on the metals. But, as I look over it all, it's still --the world banks and China in the mainstream that dictates most of what goes on (and that, is not just metals).
...Ya know, I just wish when I go shopping, like for fish (Tilapia or Salmon), it doesn't say on the package --made in china, fish farm. Most of the time, it does, if not all the time.

[mindtab]

overall, do not export metals to countries if you need those metals. It's like, why all the export to China? Why deplete your own continent for them?
So many things involved. It doesn't take a mathematician, an economic or political major to see that -- where there is more population, they need more resources. And where many businesses take resources there, you deplete the ones you have in your own land.

https://books.google.com/books?id=QjnE3y5Au2YC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=copper+decline+in+infrastructures&source=bl&ots=18dwr3mrTF&sig=ACfU3U0UGWdNL3JpwRMH6ix_I4qqZaZ_Nw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja0OGSvdjgAhUC2FkKHVhvDC0Q6AEwCHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=copper%20decline%20in%20infrastructures&f=false

[jfines69]

I'm in with the plating blisters and the fact that the frankenzincs were a bad decision by the mint as is the shield cents!!!

[mindtab]

I'm in with the plating blisters and the fact that the frankenzincs were a bad decision by the mint as is the shield cents!!!

JF, "frankenzincs" is too funny. Thanks for the reply.